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Old 09-02-2024, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tripled
could a commuter put his sc on a swap board?
I don't think that's a thing but I don't see why it couldn't be. Only 18 hour notice and now they are assigning stuff later so I'm not sure how useful it would be.
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Old 09-02-2024, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
If you don’t happen to put eyeballs on your schedule at 11:59 prior to end of off day, how can you hold the company to account if they add something 11 or 10 hours prior that reports under 18 from LC start?
Open Time menu - Pilot History will tell you when a trip was assigned. No need to check your schedule. In fact if you are in an FRMS category it is a bad idea to check your schedule. You may end up "volunteering" for a FRMS trip that you wouldn't have been legal for if you just waited.
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Old 09-02-2024, 09:35 PM
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Want to make sure I am doing my math right. If I want to bid the minimum amount of consecutive days to force a 30/168, I should do 7, right? My napkin math says that if I go on reserve on a Sunday, the latest I could start an FDP or RAP is 1800 on Friday.
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Old 09-02-2024, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeMoose
Want to make sure I am doing my math right. If I want to bid the minimum amount of consecutive days to force a 30/168, I should do 7, right? My napkin math says that if I go on reserve on a Sunday, the latest I could start an FDP or RAP is 1800 on Friday.
Sort of. Keep in mind a DH only duty period is not an FDP and therefore legal. “No pilot shall begin an FDP etc”. On the 777 we routinely had 8 day trips that were legal despite not having a 30 hour layover.
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Old 09-03-2024, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by HostileCombover
I made it to 8 this month before they cut me off.
How did they cut you off? If there were SC available this seems like a PWA violation.
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Old 09-03-2024, 02:20 PM
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Looks like Oprah is giving out short calls again. Every pilot in my cat tomorrow and 0 open time for the next 3 days. Paying probably 10+ hours in short call pay for 6 hour windows. This can't be sustainable but I'll take the money.
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Old 09-03-2024, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
30 hours functions like a normal X day for assignment purposes. 23.S.2.a.5. for rotations and 23.S.2.c.3. for short calls. In other words, the latest they can add something reporting 10 - 18 hours after this 30 hour rest/ PR/ PB/ X day is 12 hours prior to the conclusion of this 30 hour rest / PR / PB / X day.

There is no obligation to check your schedule and acknowledge. However, if you don’t (and something was there prior to 12 hours) you may receive a call the moment your LC begins for something reporting 10 hours later.

If you don’t happen to put eyeballs on your schedule at 11:59 prior to end of off day, how can you hold the company to account if they add something 11 or 10 hours prior that reports under 18 from LC start?
The Daily Trip Coverage report would show date/time stamp of assignment.

SC on the other hand would require a call to scheduler to ask what time it was assigned.
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Old 09-03-2024, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Looks like Oprah is giving out short calls again. Every pilot in my cat tomorrow and 0 open time for the next 3 days. Paying probably 10+ hours in short call pay for 6 hour windows. This can't be sustainable but I'll take the money.
Sure, but that 10 hours pays for itself if it saves 1 green slip from a last minute sick out.
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Old 09-03-2024, 03:49 PM
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I YS'd a SC, and there were a dozen or more available, but I didn't get one. I noticed on the reserve open time window that they were "targeting" 2 days of availability, but I only had 1 day. Can they legally not give me the SC because of this?
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Old 09-03-2024, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Prospect
I YS'd a SC, and there were a dozen or more available, but I didn't get one. I noticed on the reserve open time window that they were "targeting" 2 days of availability, but I only had 1 day. Can they legally not give me the SC because of this?
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For short call periods in reserve open time (i.e, for YS'ing):
"For example, if an available short call period is marked as “three-day pilot,” only a pilot with three days of availability is eligible to be awarded that short call period."

I actually wonder if the trend from open-time 4-day bucket SC's to 2-day bucket SC's was to prevent people from rolling their LC days (move X days) to keep themselves in the 4 day bucket and continuosly YS SC open time. By the 2-day bucket, it's past the 72-hour window to move X-days to stretch your LC days out (can't keep yourself in the 2-day bucket to keep YS'ing SC's.)

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