cencal83406

SRH pg 259

PWA 12.A.10., 12.T.

short call is not a duty period it’s a reserve availability period for the purposes of the PWA.

this is particularly important in cases when the company attempts to delay your report and you acknowledge.

tennisguru

Just a friendly reminder for reserve pilots out there in this mess:

If you are on SC, and subsequently are assigned an FDP, you cannot extend that FDP under any circumstances. Not 30 minutes, not 2 hours. It is a hard limit.

Your RAP + FDP limit is the lesser of the Table B FDP time + 4 hours, or 16 hours, whichever is less. And again within those calculations you cannot extend your FDP even if the extension keeps you within the B+4/16 window.

Hubcapped

When on a gs with the last day of the trip as an on call day, is rr pay above guarantee?

my time card only gave me 12 hours of gs pay.
it was a 21 hour trip with the “on call” day blocking 8 hours. There was 6 hours of rr pay and “add” pay of 4 hours but the gs number never moved. Seem too little

cencal83406

RR pay is always above when due.

Hubcapped

ok thank you. I assume that if 7 of the 20 hours are blocked on the “on call” day, then i dont get 5:15 a day min for the other 3? Sorry to spam but after 10 years, kids are basically gone and im just now stepping in to gs land

cencal83406

ADG isn’t a minimum guarantee of 5:15 pay each day of the trip. It is an average guarantee. Simple answer:

if you are given a trip with scheduled block 3.5 hours day 1 and 8.0 day 2, you’ll more than likely get paid block 11.5 as it’s higher than 5.15 times number of days the trip touched past 0200. The total credit based on ADG for this hypothetical is 10.30 (5.15*2) which is less the scheduled block. Our contract doesn’t pay us 5.15 on day 1 because it’s higher than the block value. Hence *average* daily guarantee.


Hubcapped take a look at Negotiator’s Notepad 24-03 for how to calculate reroute pay. The critical part of this is how to look at the different pays on a rotation like the scheduling committee would see them. In iCrew on the web go to Pre-Flight - Archived Rotations.

this page also helps you determine what each day is worth so you can have a clear idea of what spillover trips pay and where.

FangsF15

To add to what Cencal said, The FDP report time coverted to base time determines which "day" the block/DH goes on, and therefore how it breaks down between X-Days and LC days. If you report on an X day (to include within PR time), then that entire FDP block/DH goes above guarnantee. However, if you report on a LC day, it goes toward guarantee. If your final day reports on a LC Day, all the trip credit goes toward guarantee.

As stated, anything that is "pay/no credit" will have a blank in the "credit" colum on your time card (like EDP, Carve, Sit, Holiday, Reroute, etc), and always goes above guarantee. It's "the phrase that pays"

Hubcapped

christ this stuff makes me feel dumb. I mean i know im dumb, but this is just the std daily reminder that reaffirms my idiocy

80knotsV1rotate

I feel pretty dumb, but I can't for the life of me find Negotiator's Notepad 24-03. I spent the last 15 minutes in aerodocs and on ALPA's website.

cencal83406

Log in to DALPA (dal dot alpa dot org), then type in “negotators notepad 24-03” in the search box.

first time I searched I got it to come up first, 2nd time it’s 3rd. Great search engine I guess.