bugman61

Do you have a PWA or SRH reference that backs this up?

tennisguru

It was from a discussion covering a very similar scenario on the scheduling FB page. Just throw the question up there now and see what their response is.

neodd

I guess I still don't get it.

I'm on the last day of my LC block. No assignment. Tomorrow is an X-day. I've been assigned 30hrs rest at 1800 tonight (at least I think I'm reading that correctly, 1800 on the 14th to 0000 on the 15th, is that 30hrs or 6?)

What is my obligation to the company right now at 1000 on my last LC day?

Do I still need to be contactable, or rather, respond to any attempted contact?

The only thing they can assign me is rest as early as immediately or 2 hours from now if I don't acknowledge?

Can they assign me a trip reporting in 18hrs (tomorrow) on my X-day?

If they can't assign me a trip but do anyway, is that fly now grieve later?

If the only thing they can assign me is rest, why not just give me rest at 0600? Waiting to 1800 just restricts my ability to pickup off-day flying 12 hours later than it could be, right?

CBreezy

Legally? You are on call until your rest begins. They can interrupt a non-golden x day to give you a trip tomorrow.

Realistically? If they already gave you rest AND there are people left available in the reserve grid, you are pretty much done. You are free to call and get released and they'll likely release you.

To your last question: if they give you rest at 1800, you can pick up a GS starting at 0400. How is that restrictive?

FangsF15

I'm not sure that's true. 23.S.5.a says a LC pilot "must be available for contact by Crew Scheduling at any time while on-call", and 23.S.5.e "will not be required to remain available for contact in the 24 hours prior to the scheduled report of an assigned rotation." Which clearly implies that other than 24 hours prior, you must be contactable. I don't see anything which says 'acknowledging' an assignment does (effectively) the same thing as 23.S.5.e.

Further, 23.S.5.d. says you may be contacted by one of two methods 1. A phone call or, 2. placed on your schedule prior to 12 hours before the end of the last non-fly day, and 2.b.note says "A pilot is responsible for ascertaining whether they have been assigned a rotation or converted to short call under Section 23 S. 5. d. 2) b). Crew Scheduling is not required to make telephone contact for such an assignment or conversion.

I will add that I've had a rotation changed like this (in the old "day prior" contract). Which doesn't necessarily mean it was legal when CS did it... I've also had CS correct a YS that was not honored, which was taken back off anothere pilot's line and correctly given to me. I'd be glad to be corrected here, because what you are saying is actually a pretty powerful thing if true. I've been wrong before.

neodd

Just wasn't sure how it worked if they assign me 30hrs of rest. Would that make me ineligible for a GS until completion of rest or am I good after 10hrs?

FangsF15

You are still good for a GS (assuming your are otherwise legal), it would just wreck your 30-hour clock resetting.

CBreezy

To add to what fangs said, the 30 hour rest they put on there is automatic. They don't think you NEED 30 hours but they do it as a default to reset your clock. I think primarily in case you only had 1 day off you'd bee good at the start of your next reserve stretch.

Verdell

I'm pretty sure they can change a reserve assignment right up until 12 hours prior to start of long-call (coming off a no-fly day) regardless if you previously acknowledged a different assignment. I can't find any language suggesting otherwise.

tennisguru

Again, you're going to have to verify my infromation directly from the scheduling committee. That's where I got my intial gouge from. Just send a dart or ask on the scheduling FB page.