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Old 10-07-2023, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jalco4
Would putting 2 IVD's on day 2 and 3 of a 5 day reserve block (NB) be a good strategy to hopefully turn it into 5 days "off"?
I read that for the day prior to an IVD (first day of reserve block), the pilot will be last for a SC conversion (I commute).
Also, from what I understand, they cannot assign anything before 6pm on day 4 after a vacation day, which will hopefully further limit my usefulness for day 4 and 5. Thoughts? Not many locals in open time. Would an APD used in this manner be identical (besides the payout)? Thanks.
A different strategy would be to drop the IVDs on days 2 and 4. Day 3 becomes basically a guaranteed day off since you can’t report before 1800. This method also protects day 5 the same way.

This of course uses 2 occurrences of your IVD's. If you'd rather not do that another strategy (assuming you have enough coverage) would be to IVD day 2 and simply PD day 4 and take the pay hit.
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Old 10-07-2023, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
A different strategy would be to drop the IVDs on days 2 and 4. Day 3 becomes basically a guaranteed day off since you can’t report before 1800. This method also protects day 5 the same way.

This of course uses 2 occurrences of your IVD's. If you'd rather not do that another strategy (assuming you have enough coverage) would be to IVD day 2 and simply PD day 4 and take the pay hit.

This is a what I do if I have a bunch of PB days in the bank, but not very efficient use of IVD's, though it would mostly likely do the job. jalco4 I usually IVD a single day in the middle of the 5 day block. Leaves me open for 2 days on either side, but worst case you spend 2 nights away in a 5 day period, but often it's likely only to be one. One thing to consider is where you'll fall on the coverage list. I've had it where if I had simply kept my days intact, I'd have been better off. As in I was buried on the 4 day block, but ended up being at/near the top of the 2 day block.
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Old 10-07-2023, 05:46 AM
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When on a normal long call day, is there a set amount of time that you have to return a call from crew scheduling trying to notify you of a trip? I’ve seen times varying from 15 minutes to 2 hours at other airlines, but I don’t see any mention of it in the PWA. I know that you have a minimum of 18 hours from their first attempted contact, but would it be possible to be out of cellular reception for, say, 30 minutes, and not get in trouble if you got a call? Or to commute during the 18 hour min callout on the first day?

I do see in the scheduling reference handbook that it says long call pilots are “not required to acknowledge any assignments.” Does this mean that you don’t actually need to answer the phone and/or call them back as long as you show up?
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Old 10-07-2023, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ninedriver
When on a normal long call day, is there a set amount of time that you have to return a call from crew scheduling trying to notify you of a trip? I’ve seen times varying from 15 minutes to 2 hours at other airlines, but I don’t see any mention of it in the PWA. I know that you have a minimum of 18 hours from their first attempted contact, but would it be possible to be out of cellular reception for, say, 30 minutes, and not get in trouble if you got a call? Or to commute during the 18 hour min callout on the first day?

You won't get a call from scheduling for a long call callout unless you haven't acknowledged by 2 hours to report. It's simply put on your line and you just acknowledge it. On SC, I think you have 10 minutes (don't quote me on that) before they'll consider it a missed assignment. Even on a SC callout, you can simply acknowledge it in icrew/micrew and they'll get the picture.
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Old 10-07-2023, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
You won't get a call from scheduling for a long call callout unless you haven't acknowledged by 2 hours to report. It's simply put on your line and you just acknowledge it. On SC, I think you have 10 minutes (don't quote me on that) before they'll consider it a missed assignment. Even on a SC callout, you can simply acknowledge it in icrew/micrew and they'll get the picture.
Unless the trip is assigned for your pre release schedule check, or the 12 hours prior to the end of a no fly day, you will get a call from scheduling. There is no need to callback, or specific timeline for acknowledgement.
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Old 10-07-2023, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ninedriver
When on a normal long call day, is there a set amount of time that you have to return a call from crew scheduling trying to notify you of a trip?
You never need to answer your phone, and you never need to call them back. Full stop.
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Old 10-07-2023, 07:27 AM
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You never need to answer your phone, and you never need to call them back. Full stop.
That is awesome! Thanks all!
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Old 10-07-2023, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
You won't get a call from scheduling for a long call callout unless you haven't acknowledged by 2 hours to report. It's simply put on your line and you just acknowledge it. On SC, I think you have 10 minutes (don't quote me on that) before they'll consider it a missed assignment. Even on a SC callout, you can simply acknowledge it in icrew/micrew and they'll get the picture.
You absolutely have to receive a phone call from an actual live scheduler and not a robo call for a valid long call assignment. This applies on all long call days with the exception only being assignments given at least 12 hours prior to the end of your X-day/PB/PR.
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Old 10-07-2023, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Gspeed
You absolutely have to receive a phone call from an actual live scheduler and not a robo call for a valid long call assignment. This applies on all long call days with the exception only being assignments given at least 12 hours prior to the end of your X-day/PB/PR.

Yup, my bad. As I look back at the last 6-9 months of assignments, I've only had (mostly) GS, SC callouts, trips assigned while on duty or on an X-day. I honestly, can't remember the last time scheduling has called me for a LC callout.

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Old 10-07-2023, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Yup, my bad. As I look back at the last 6-9 months of assignments, I've only had (mostly) GS, SC callouts, trips assigned while on duty or on an X-day. I honestly, can't remember the last time scheduling has called me for a LC callout.
Only time I’ve gotten an actual call from a scheduler recently was when I actually YS a trip that was the least sucky (my raw score was super low). I used auto accept and ack, but they called me prior to report asking me to ack in icrew. Can’t remember how far out from report that was.
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