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Old 10-06-2023, 07:31 AM
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Thanks. How many days of flying on a busy month?
On reserve, it could be 15-17 in a “bad” month. While that’s not typical, it’s tough to forecast the long-term. I bid reserve by choice, am a Captain at about 65-70% (but fairly senior on reserve), and average 11 days of work a month. There are ways as a line holder to work similar for a ‘normal’ month

Keep in mind, hiring is about to slow, and with it, Captain upgrades will also slow. Not trying to talk you out of it, just want to be fully honest about the future. Of course, living in NJ, you have more options and prospects if you are based in NYC.

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Old 10-06-2023, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
On reserve, it could be 15-17 in a “bad” month. While that’s not typical, it’s tough to forecast the long-term. I bid reserve by choice, am a Captain at about 65-70% (but fairly senior on reserve), and average 11 days of work a month. There are ways as a line holder to work similar for a ‘normal’ month

Keep in mind, hiring is about to slow, and with it, Captain upgrades will also slow. Not trying to talk you out of it, just want to be fully honest about the future. Of course, living in NJ, you have more options and prospects if you are based in NYC.

Good luck. Get lots of opinions, especially if you can chat in person.
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Old 10-06-2023, 09:12 AM
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Keep in mind, hiring is about to slow
The AE memo that came out today revised hiring guidance to say that we plan on hiring 200 per month until next summer. I believe that’s the 2nd or 3rd time they have delayed the planned slow down in hiring to more “traditional rates” (100 or so a month is what I think it was planned to be once we slowed).
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:17 AM
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The AE memo that came out today revised hiring guidance to say that we plan on hiring 200 per month until next summer. I believe that’s the 2nd or 3rd time they have delayed the planned slow down in hiring to more “traditional rates” (100 or so a month is what I think it was planned to be once we slowed).
The context of the the post was to a prospective NH though. By the time such a person can apply, interview, and start, hiring will absolutely have slowed.

I would also point out the number touted by Flight Ops senior management at several base visits in the last 10 days has been 1700ish for the year, and 1300ish in the years following (no particular end date). I have not seen any detail/granularity to that number anywhere, but I might have missed it. So even if they hire 200/month in the beginning of the year, that weighting could still be consistent with their disclosed plan, if they slow as we get to summer (which they almost certainly will). We can't really tell from today's AE memo comments if there is a broader shift in hiring, or not, IMO.
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
The context of the the post was to a prospective NH though. By the time such a person can apply, interview, and start, hiring will absolutely have slowed.

I would also point out the number touted by Flight Ops senior management at several base visits in the last 10 days has been 1700ish for the year, and 1300ish in the years following (no particular end date). I have not seen any detail/granularity to that number anywhere, but I might have missed it. So even if they hire 200/month in the beginning of the year, that weighting could still be consistent with their disclosed plan, if they slow as we get to summer (which they almost certainly will). We can't really tell from today's AE memo comments if there is a broader shift in hiring, or not, IMO.
And the context of mine is that this “slowdown” in hiring has been talked about for over year and keeps getting pushed right, so you cannot say with “absolute” certainty that it will happen before someone looking to apply today gets hired.
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Old 10-06-2023, 11:25 AM
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And the context of mine is that this “slowdown” in hiring has been talked about for over year and keeps getting pushed right, so you cannot say with “absolute” certainty that it will happen before someone looking to apply today gets hired.
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Old 10-06-2023, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolf424
And the context of mine is that this “slowdown” in hiring has been talked about for over year and keeps getting pushed right, so you cannot say with “absolute” certainty that it will happen before someone looking to apply today gets hired.
Actually, I think we can. But you disagree and that’s okay. I don’t remember there being talk for over a year of slashing to a new norm of ~110/month. Maybe I’m having early onset dementia.

But when you consider prospects for upgrading to Captain for someone who has not yet even applied, that’s a whole other story, wouldn’t you agree?
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Old 10-06-2023, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Actually, I think we can. But you disagree and that’s okay. I don’t remember there being talk for over a year of slashing to a new norm of ~110/month. Maybe I’m having early onset dementia.

But when you consider prospects for upgrading to Captain for someone who has not yet even applied, that’s a whole other story, wouldn’t you agree?
I remember it being mentioned numerous times. The only example I can easily find was at the Flt Ops Town Hall around 2 March 23 I think, where BS was quoted as saying 200 a month before slowing down to traditional hiring rates by the summer. Obviously that didn’t happen. I know there were some other examples, but I know that one happened. (I was helping someone get hired at the time and quoted it to him in an email).

Regardless, I’m a bit more bullish than you I guess, but I just haven’t seen anything that leads me to believe they won’t extend that plan again. If demand is there, we aren’t going to slow IMO.
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:18 PM
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Would putting 2 IVD's on day 2 and 3 of a 5 day reserve block (NB) be a good strategy to hopefully turn it into 5 days "off"?
I read that for the day prior to an IVD (first day of reserve block), the pilot will be last for a SC conversion (I commute).
Also, from what I understand, they cannot assign anything before 6pm on day 4 after a vacation day, which will hopefully further limit my usefulness for day 4 and 5. Thoughts? Not many locals in open time. Would an APD used in this manner be identical (besides the payout)? Thanks.
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Old 10-07-2023, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jalco4
Would putting 2 IVD's on day 2 and 3 of a 5 day reserve block (NB) be a good strategy to hopefully turn it into 5 days "off"?
I read that for the day prior to an IVD (first day of reserve block), the pilot will be last for a SC conversion (I commute).
Also, from what I understand, they cannot assign anything before 6pm on day 4 after a vacation day, which will hopefully further limit my usefulness for day 4 and 5. Thoughts? Not many locals in open time. Would an APD used in this manner be identical (besides the payout)? Thanks.
That’s a good strategy, though not a guarantee by any stretch.

APD does not have the same 6pm as “first assignment time after” rule that IVD does.
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