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Old 08-26-2023, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
Ok, that makes sense (yet doesn't make sense) that it is doable but extremely difficult. He'll need a lot of good coverage to work that many days forwards and backwards.

Right. It makes no sense why we can't create a new block for reserve as long as you meet the reserve rules (3-99-5, etc...). It gets worse when your category has an MSL, which I don't think any have right now, but they're usually only a WB thing.


Originally Posted by RAH RAH REE
So does anybody have a run down of the rules for moving x-days, because I always get denied for cryptic reasons not related to the reserve day block min

Search x-day move in the Scheduling Reference Handbook. It has all the rules/exceptions.
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Old 08-26-2023, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RAH RAH REE
So does anybody have a run down of the rules for moving x-days, because I always get denied for cryptic reasons not related to the reserve day block min
The Scheduling Reference Handbook has a page with details, but here are the specific rules. It has more than just this, I suggest you take a look at it, page 70 in the handbook: https://dal.alpa.org/Portals/1/Docum...dbook.pdfX-Day

Move Rules
X- days may be moved, at pilot request, via PCS under “leave requests,” provided:
  • the X-day(s) to be moved are:

    o an entire X-day block,
    o the first or last day of an X-day block ,or
    o a series of contiguous Xdays that includes the first or last day of an X-day block,and
  • reserve availability in the category is sufficient, and
  • movement of the X day(s) does not cause an FAR violation, and
  • X-day(s) are not moved into or out of a scheduled vacation, and
  • X-day(s) are not moved into or out of the last six days of the current bid period during the PBS bid

    award process for the subsequent bid period, and
  • the X-day(s) to be moved begin at least 72 hours after the award date of the move, and
  • X-day(s) are moved to be contiguous with:

    o another X-day block, or a training day,
    o a vacation day,
    o a PD/APD day, or

    o a day of legal duty.
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Old 08-27-2023, 08:41 AM
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Quick question about upcoming RES days: today and tomorrow are PB days, the 29th is an APD, and the 30th is PR from 0000 to 0625. I start a 4 day block of LC at 0626 on the 30th. There is is exactly one trip in open time on the 30th, which is a 4 day that reports at 0905, and I’m the only pilot in category with exactly 4 days of availability (there are a few more pilots in the 4 day group but all have 5+ days of availability). Would this trip be a legal assignment? Or would 1000 be the earliest report time they could give me since I’m coming from a hard day off?
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Old 08-27-2023, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by HisDudenes5
Quick question about upcoming RES days: today and tomorrow are PB days, the 29th is an APD, and the 30th is PR from 0000 to 0625. I start a 4 day block of LC at 0626 on the 30th. There is is exactly one trip in open time on the 30th, which is a 4 day that reports at 0905, and I’m the only pilot in category with exactly 4 days of availability (there are a few more pilots in the 4 day group but all have 5+ days of availability). Would this trip be a legal assignment? Or would 1000 be the earliest report time they could give me since I’m coming from a hard day off?
Your earliest report time would be 1625 (your reserve start time plus 10 hours) so no not legal.
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Old 08-27-2023, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by HisDudenes5
Quick question about upcoming RES days: today and tomorrow are PB days, the 29th is an APD, and the 30th is PR from 0000 to 0625. I start a 4 day block of LC at 0626 on the 30th. There is is exactly one trip in open time on the 30th, which is a 4 day that reports at 0905, and I’m the only pilot in category with exactly 4 days of availability (there are a few more pilots in the 4 day group but all have 5+ days of availability). Would this trip be a legal assignment? Or would 1000 be the earliest report time they could give me since I’m coming from a hard day off?
To add to what was said above, you are coming off a non-fly day so the same rules apply like your first day of a reserve stretch. You can be made to report as early as 10 hours after the start of LC as long as the assignment is made no later than 12 hours before the start of LC (so report as early as 1626 if it is assigned by 1826 the day prior). If no assignment by 12 hours prior then the earliest you can report is 18 hours after the start of LC, so 0026 the following day in your case.
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Old 08-27-2023, 11:42 AM
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Excellent, thanks guys! I was dreading that assignment because it’s not a particularly desirable 4-day trip so this is welcome news
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Old 08-28-2023, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by HisDudenes5
Quick question about upcoming RES days: today and tomorrow are PB days, the 29th is an APD, and the 30th is PR from 0000 to 0625. I start a 4 day block of LC at 0626 on the 30th. There is is exactly one trip in open time on the 30th, which is a 4 day that reports at 0905, and I’m the only pilot in category with exactly 4 days of availability (there are a few more pilots in the 4 day group but all have 5+ days of availability). Would this trip be a legal assignment? Or would 1000 be the earliest report time they could give me since I’m coming from a hard day off?
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Your earliest report time would be 1625 (your reserve start time plus 10 hours) so no not legal.
Originally Posted by tennisguru
To add to what was said above, you are coming off a non-fly day so the same rules apply like your first day of a reserve stretch. You can be made to report as early as 10 hours after the start of LC as long as the assignment is made no later than 12 hours before the start of LC (so report as early as 1626 if it is assigned by 1826 the day prior). If no assignment by 12 hours prior then the earliest you can report is 18 hours after the start of LC, so 0026 the following day in your case.
(I've added a bunch of 'bold' and 'italics' for emphasis)

This is the BEST explanation of partial reserve days I've seen! Any time a trip interrupts an off day, you need to see when your next 'On call' period begins. Once you have that information, you can do the math for the "10-hours after start" as long as it's on your schedule no later than 12-hour before the start. Otherwise it's 18-hours.
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Old 08-28-2023, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by captkdobbs
(I've added a bunch of 'bold' and 'italics' for emphasis)

This is the BEST explanation of partial reserve days I've seen! Any time a trip interrupts an off day, you need to see when your next 'On call' period begins. Once you have that information, you can do the math for the "10-hours after start" as long as it's on your schedule no later than 12-hour before the start. Otherwise it's 18-hours.
Agreed! 10 within 12, otherwise 18. Which is where Noon schedule check technique comes in.
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Old 08-28-2023, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by myrkridia
Agreed! 10 within 12, otherwise 18. Which is where Noon schedule check technique comes in.
The added detail being that if scheduling gives you an assignment that reports "10 within 12" as you call it, they will not call you to notify you. The pilot is required to make themselves aware of any such assignment.
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Old 08-29-2023, 06:47 PM
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New guy here with a question about becoming “full” on reserve. The reference handbook didn’t quite answer it.

I am looking to try to get the last 9 days of May off in next year. It would be great if I could put my vacation time there, but I don’t know if I can hold that. Schools in my base won’t be out for summer by then, so maybe it’s junior vacation time, I don’t know. Regardless, I had the thought to bid reserve and bid my vacation at the start of the month. That vacation credit would count towards me being full, right? So I could theoretically spend my vacation time (and the rest of the month) trying to pick up slips (or even stuff from the trade board?) and that would stack on top of the vacation credit, and make it pretty attainable to hit “full” in the first 3 weeks of the month?

Thanks!
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