Reserve for Dummies
07-02-2023, 08:53 AM
#1211
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 861
Technique is to highlight the parts that aren't in effect. I like PDF version so I can add my own notes.
07-02-2023, 09:00 AM
#1212
Bus driver
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 838
07-02-2023, 10:46 AM
#1213
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Position: Looking left
Posts: 3,378
I’m aware that the MOU exists and where it is. My reply was trying to get him to quote which section of the PWA he thought was presently in effect.
07-06-2023, 05:42 AM
#1214
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Joined APC: May 2014
Position: Drivin’ the bus
Posts: 728
I've noticed a pattern of being released into rest at 0600 on unused reserve days prior to a REGULAR(i.e. not a hard non-fly day) XX day. I've also not been notified of the release into rest. Isn't a phone call required to prospectively notify you of the release into rest? Prior to hard non-fly days, I get a robocall as notification but not into regular XX days.
Reason I'm curious is because, on paper, it looks like I'm on a 30 hour break now resetting the 30/168 clock. But if I'm not prospectively notified, I see the potential for a conflict with an assignment going forward where I claim I need 30 hours off and they claim I already had it.
Reason I'm curious is because, on paper, it looks like I'm on a 30 hour break now resetting the 30/168 clock. But if I'm not prospectively notified, I see the potential for a conflict with an assignment going forward where I claim I need 30 hours off and they claim I already had it.
07-06-2023, 06:45 AM
#1215
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,836
I've noticed a pattern of being released into rest at 0600 on unused reserve days prior to a REGULAR(i.e. not a hard non-fly day) XX day. I've also not been notified of the release into rest. Isn't a phone call required to prospectively notify you of the release into rest? Prior to hard non-fly days, I get a robocall as notification but not into regular XX days.
Reason I'm curious is because, on paper, it looks like I'm on a 30 hour break now resetting the 30/168 clock. But if I'm not prospectively notified, I see the potential for a conflict with an assignment going forward where I claim I need 30 hours off and they claim I already had it.
Reason I'm curious is because, on paper, it looks like I'm on a 30 hour break now resetting the 30/168 clock. But if I'm not prospectively notified, I see the potential for a conflict with an assignment going forward where I claim I need 30 hours off and they claim I already had it.
07-06-2023, 11:53 AM
#1216
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Joined APC: May 2014
Position: Drivin’ the bus
Posts: 728
EDIT: Just found that Reserve PB Day is considered a "hard non-fly day" in the scheduling reference document.
07-06-2023, 12:05 PM
#1217
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,836
OK. That was my understanding also. Figured I was missing something. In this case, the following day was "TOFF" (payback day applied) so not a hard non-fly day.
EDIT: Just found that Reserve PB Day is considered a "hard non-fly day" in the scheduling reference document.
EDIT: Just found that Reserve PB Day is considered a "hard non-fly day" in the scheduling reference document.
07-06-2023, 01:52 PM
#1218
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: DAL FO
Posts: 2,169
Probably already asked somewhere in this thread, but here goes…bonus points if you can cite the reference to your answer. Can’t find this anywhere.
Are 30 hours rest considered a non fly day for the purpose of RES schedule check?
When do we have to be contactable/check our schedule?
Does 2nd day trip coverage change this at all?
And what’s the earliest they can put flying on your sked after 30 hours?
A) Immediately
B) No earlier than 10 hours if on your sked 12 prior to rest ending
C) 18 hours because you revert to LC when rest ends
Are 30 hours rest considered a non fly day for the purpose of RES schedule check?
When do we have to be contactable/check our schedule?
Does 2nd day trip coverage change this at all?
And what’s the earliest they can put flying on your sked after 30 hours?
A) Immediately
B) No earlier than 10 hours if on your sked 12 prior to rest ending
C) 18 hours because you revert to LC when rest ends
07-06-2023, 02:20 PM
#1219
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Joined APC: May 2022
Posts: 337
Probably already asked somewhere in this thread, but here goes…bonus points if you can cite the reference to your answer. Can’t find this anywhere.
Are 30 hours rest considered a non fly day for the purpose of RES schedule check?
When do we have to be contactable/check our schedule?
Does 2nd day trip coverage change this at all?
And what’s the earliest they can put flying on your sked after 30 hours?
A) Immediately
B) No earlier than 10 hours if on your sked 12 prior to rest ending
C) 18 hours because you revert to LC when rest ends
Are 30 hours rest considered a non fly day for the purpose of RES schedule check?
When do we have to be contactable/check our schedule?
Does 2nd day trip coverage change this at all?
And what’s the earliest they can put flying on your sked after 30 hours?
A) Immediately
B) No earlier than 10 hours if on your sked 12 prior to rest ending
C) 18 hours because you revert to LC when rest ends
They can put it on your schedule right after 30 hours if they notify you when or before they notify you of the rest. If you start your rest, you aren't required to ascertain (not an action verb so not duty) your schedule until 10 hours prior to end of rest. They can give you a trip or shirt call starting 10 hours after the end of the rest. But if it isn't on by 10 hours prior to the end, that reflects to 18 hours after the end of the rest. They can always put something on that starts before those times and hope you acknowledge it, but you aren't required to ascertain or acknowledge it.
07-06-2023, 02:29 PM
#1220
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: DAL FO
Posts: 2,169
23 S 5 d 2 b Note. Required to ascertain your schedule 12 hours prior to the end of your last non-fly day. Rest is a soft non-fly day.
They can put it on your schedule right after 30 hours if they notify you when or before they notify you of the rest. If you start your rest, you aren't required to ascertain (not an action verb so not duty) your schedule until 10 hours prior to end of rest. They can give you a trip or shirt call starting 10 hours after the end of the rest. But if it isn't on by 10 hours prior to the end, that reflects to 18 hours after the end of the rest. They can always put something on that starts before those times and hope you acknowledge it, but you aren't required to ascertain or acknowledge it.
They can put it on your schedule right after 30 hours if they notify you when or before they notify you of the rest. If you start your rest, you aren't required to ascertain (not an action verb so not duty) your schedule until 10 hours prior to end of rest. They can give you a trip or shirt call starting 10 hours after the end of the rest. But if it isn't on by 10 hours prior to the end, that reflects to 18 hours after the end of the rest. They can always put something on that starts before those times and hope you acknowledge it, but you aren't required to ascertain or acknowledge it.
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