Reserve for Dummies
06-23-2023, 12:49 AM
#1161
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 63
Can they give us a turn "tag on flying" on the last day of a rotation if youre on a reserve line doing a GS or IA on an X day?
If so do you get paid any extra for the turn if it doesn't bring your rotation credit any higher.
Same thing if it was tag on flying on a REG line while you're on a GS or IA?
Thanks
If so do you get paid any extra for the turn if it doesn't bring your rotation credit any higher.
Same thing if it was tag on flying on a REG line while you're on a GS or IA?
Thanks
06-23-2023, 02:41 AM
#1162
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2010
Posts: 609
Can they give us a turn "tag on flying" on the last day of a rotation if youre on a reserve line doing a GS or IA on an X day?
If so do you get paid any extra for the turn if it doesn't bring your rotation credit any higher.
Same thing if it was tag on flying on a REG line while you're on a GS or IA?
Thanks
If so do you get paid any extra for the turn if it doesn't bring your rotation credit any higher.
Same thing if it was tag on flying on a REG line while you're on a GS or IA?
Thanks
Res pilot doesn’t have the same protections as a Reg pilot wrt to tag-on flying.
Also, 23.L.9 reroute pay would trigger if you’re on an X-day and are scheduled to return more than 4 hours later than originally scheduled.
reference PWA 12.G.9
“A reserve pilot who arrives at their base on the last flight segment of their rotation may be assigned additional flying prior to their release. If the additional flying is assigned:
a. under Section 23 N. or O., the pilot will be scheduled to be released within their
maximum scheduled duty time.
b. under Section 23 L. (Reroute), the pilot will be scheduled to be released within their
maximum duty time”
06-23-2023, 04:41 AM
#1164
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Joined APC: May 2014
Position: Drivin’ the bus
Posts: 728
Ill look again. Version I looked at direct from the ALPA website still has 12 hours. Thanks.
Edit- This is from the 6/20/2023 update of the SRH on DALPA website:
"A reserve pilot who calls in well on an on-call day prior to 1200 will not be charged a sick day and
will immediately be placed on long call status. If a reserve calls in well after 1201 on an on-call day,
they will be charged for a sick day. The logic is that a reserve pilot who calls in well prior to noon
can be given an assignment on that day since a long call pilot has a 12-hourleash."
I know 0600 makes sense, just wondering about the update now....
Edit- This is from the 6/20/2023 update of the SRH on DALPA website:
"A reserve pilot who calls in well on an on-call day prior to 1200 will not be charged a sick day and
will immediately be placed on long call status. If a reserve calls in well after 1201 on an on-call day,
they will be charged for a sick day. The logic is that a reserve pilot who calls in well prior to noon
can be given an assignment on that day since a long call pilot has a 12-hourleash."
I know 0600 makes sense, just wondering about the update now....
06-23-2023, 05:53 AM
#1165
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,997
Ill look again. Version I looked at direct from the ALPA website still has 12 hours. Thanks.
Edit- This is from the 6/20/2023 update of the SRH on DALPA website:
"A reserve pilot who calls in well on an on-call day prior to 1200 will not be charged a sick day and
will immediately be placed on long call status. If a reserve calls in well after 1201 on an on-call day,
they will be charged for a sick day. The logic is that a reserve pilot who calls in well prior to noon
can be given an assignment on that day since a long call pilot has a 12-hourleash."
I know 0600 makes sense, just wondering about the update now....
Edit- This is from the 6/20/2023 update of the SRH on DALPA website:
"A reserve pilot who calls in well on an on-call day prior to 1200 will not be charged a sick day and
will immediately be placed on long call status. If a reserve calls in well after 1201 on an on-call day,
they will be charged for a sick day. The logic is that a reserve pilot who calls in well prior to noon
can be given an assignment on that day since a long call pilot has a 12-hourleash."
I know 0600 makes sense, just wondering about the update now....
06-23-2023, 06:04 AM
#1166
Moderator
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 4,813
Ill look again. Version I looked at direct from the ALPA website still has 12 hours. Thanks.
Edit- This is from the 6/20/2023 update of the SRH on DALPA website:
"A reserve pilot who calls in well on an on-call day prior to 1200 will not be charged a sick day and
will immediately be placed on long call status. If a reserve calls in well after 1201 on an on-call day,
they will be charged for a sick day. The logic is that a reserve pilot who calls in well prior to noon
can be given an assignment on that day since a long call pilot has a 12-hourleash."
I know 0600 makes sense, just wondering about the update now....
Edit- This is from the 6/20/2023 update of the SRH on DALPA website:
"A reserve pilot who calls in well on an on-call day prior to 1200 will not be charged a sick day and
will immediately be placed on long call status. If a reserve calls in well after 1201 on an on-call day,
they will be charged for a sick day. The logic is that a reserve pilot who calls in well prior to noon
can be given an assignment on that day since a long call pilot has a 12-hourleash."
I know 0600 makes sense, just wondering about the update now....
"A reserve pilot who calls in well on an on-call day prior to 0600 will not be charged a sick day and will immediately be placed on long call status. If a reserve pilot calls in well after 0601, he will be charged for a sick day and be placed on long call status at 0001 the following day. The logic is that a reserve pilot who calls in well prior to 0600 can be given an assignment on that day since a long call pilot has an 18-hour leash."
In addition, "Engage" podcast episode #30 confirms 0600 for the 18 hour callout.
Clearly, they missed correcting the SRH on page 164 (the old Contract's reality). Submitting an ACE to correct this typo would be good.
06-23-2023, 07:26 AM
#1167
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Joined APC: May 2014
Position: Drivin’ the bus
Posts: 728
That's from page 164 of the SRH under "Sick". But also from the 6/2/23 SRH Page 81, under "Reserve":
"A reserve pilot who calls in well on an on-call day prior to 0600 will not be charged a sick day and will immediately be placed on long call status. If a reserve pilot calls in well after 0601, he will be charged for a sick day and be placed on long call status at 0001 the following day. The logic is that a reserve pilot who calls in well prior to 0600 can be given an assignment on that day since a long call pilot has an 18-hour leash."
In addition, "Engage" podcast episode #30 confirms 0600 for the 18 hour callout.
Clearly, they missed correcting the SRH on page 164 (the old Contract's reality). Submitting an ACE to correct this typo would be good.
"A reserve pilot who calls in well on an on-call day prior to 0600 will not be charged a sick day and will immediately be placed on long call status. If a reserve pilot calls in well after 0601, he will be charged for a sick day and be placed on long call status at 0001 the following day. The logic is that a reserve pilot who calls in well prior to 0600 can be given an assignment on that day since a long call pilot has an 18-hour leash."
In addition, "Engage" podcast episode #30 confirms 0600 for the 18 hour callout.
Clearly, they missed correcting the SRH on page 164 (the old Contract's reality). Submitting an ACE to correct this typo would be good.
06-23-2023, 07:30 AM
#1168
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2014
Position: Drivin’ the bus
Posts: 728
That's from page 164 of the SRH under "Sick". But also from the 6/2/23 SRH Page 81, under "Reserve":
"A reserve pilot who calls in well on an on-call day prior to 0600 will not be charged a sick day and will immediately be placed on long call status. If a reserve pilot calls in well after 0601, he will be charged for a sick day and be placed on long call status at 0001 the following day. The logic is that a reserve pilot who calls in well prior to 0600 can be given an assignment on that day since a long call pilot has an 18-hour leash."
In addition, "Engage" podcast episode #30 confirms 0600 for the 18 hour callout.
Clearly, they missed correcting the SRH on page 164 (the old Contract's reality). Submitting an ACE to correct this typo would be good.
"A reserve pilot who calls in well on an on-call day prior to 0600 will not be charged a sick day and will immediately be placed on long call status. If a reserve pilot calls in well after 0601, he will be charged for a sick day and be placed on long call status at 0001 the following day. The logic is that a reserve pilot who calls in well prior to 0600 can be given an assignment on that day since a long call pilot has an 18-hour leash."
In addition, "Engage" podcast episode #30 confirms 0600 for the 18 hour callout.
Clearly, they missed correcting the SRH on page 164 (the old Contract's reality). Submitting an ACE to correct this typo would be good.
06-23-2023, 08:57 AM
#1169
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,518
Related question: Anyone know what they are doing when you find yourself needing to call sick the day before a trip that was now assigned two days prior? I know in the past when I was assigned a trip early in the morning for the following day and I then had to call sick, I got a call from an ACP accusing me of sick time abuse....
06-23-2023, 09:11 AM
#1170
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,837
Related question: Anyone know what they are doing when you find yourself needing to call sick the day before a trip that was now assigned two days prior? I know in the past when I was assigned a trip early in the morning for the following day and I then had to call sick, I got a call from an ACP accusing me of sick time abuse....
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