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Anyone hear of how classes are going to go at the beginning of the year? CJO in hand a couple of weeks ago. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Lapav67
539 according to the ALPA app.
600 doesn’t sound crazy if we put together what I heard and what Fangs said.
Hopefully hiring picks up again if/when the Max arrives.
Just for the record, the number I heard was half that, butstrong but…. I wouldn’t put any stock in it unless/until corroborated by an actual official source. Until then, it’s a rumor I hesitate to even relay. I really hope it’s just another bad rumor.

That said, anyone hear anything at the ATL base visit yesterday? I think LAX is next week, so maybe someone will ask if they don’t volunteer the info.
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Just for the record, the number I heard was half that, butstrong but…. I wouldn’t put any stock in it unless/until corroborated by an actual official source. Until then, it’s a rumor I hesitate to even relay. I really hope it’s just another bad rumor.

That said, anyone hear anything at the ATL base visit yesterday? I think LAX is next week, so maybe someone will ask if they don’t volunteer the info.
If true that would mean one of two things: Either the air line has stopped growing or they hate the fact that staffing has gotten a bit better and want to go back to running it “a little hot”.
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Originally Posted by Lapav67
539 according to the ALPA app.
600 doesn’t sound crazy if we put together what I heard and what Fangs said.
Hopefully hiring picks up again if/when the Max arrives.
1,100-1,200 was the standard for 25’ & moving forward by the company, why believe any diff?
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Originally Posted by ApacheAv8tor
Anyone hear of how classes are going to go at the beginning of the year? CJO in hand a couple of weeks ago. Thanks

Did the hiring team give any outlook on when to expect a class date? I interviewed back in June and was told October or later. Looks like most of the October new hires were April CJOs.
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Originally Posted by Ripinpeace
1,100-1,200 was the standard for 25’ & moving forward by the company, why believe any diff?
Go read the Instructor council newsletter, published yesterday. It’s ominous

“many SLIs [are being] involuntarily removed from their SLI positions starting September 17, 2024.”

“With this being such a large announcement“

“management feels we are at least 10
percent overstaffed based on the projected training demand.”

” projected training for 2025 appears to be heavily frontloaded again”

Furthermore, the ALPA update today says:

“This week, Flight Operations announced it plans to reduce the number of SLls in the Training Department as part of an overall staffing reduction.”



Not sure if the bold is limited to just the training department, but that’s not remotely consistent with hiring 1000+. This is a big change. That statement is far more consistent with the APD (via LCP) rumor mill of 300 next year.



It sure would be nice for Flt Ops to share this information with us line pilots, like in the Base Visits or Fall Flight Standards meetings. Or both.



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