ColonelBuffB52

Agreed Meme, I didn't intend to start a gun debate. Not what this forum is about. It's a personal opinion that should've not gotten "onto paper", it was just a mindless mistake written in haste (though it is true). Yes, we all reach a point in life that we don't need to work anymore....that makes standing on principal, much easier and soemtimes flippant, but it's true, and many times that has a less-than-desirable effect. (but damn, is it liberating!). I hope many here reach that point. Thanks for the vector-check.

All 5 Stages

That's reasonable. And like Meme In Command said, choosing your airline by its political stance of the day is (IMO) foolish.

However the purpose of the D.C. March was a political call for more gun control, not less violence.

"The march had three primary demands: Pass a law to ban the assault weapons; Stop the sale of high-capacity magazines; Implement laws that require background checks on all gun purchases, including online and at gun shows."

"One of the things we've been hearing is that it's not the time yet to talk about gun control," [junior organizer] Kasky said. "So here's the time that we're going to talk about gun control: March 24."

Not sure why DAL felt obligated to provide free charters while claiming to be "neutral."

A5S

https://www.facinghistory.org/resour...t-only-5-weeks

Charlie1234

Hey everyone. New to the forum but I've appreciated the information I've read here.
I submitted my application Dec. 9th and haven’t heard anything. I’m concerned about the current slowdown in hiring and my lack of recent flying. Got out of the military 18 months ago and have only been flying GA (10 hours total in last year). Here's some info:


MIL pilot with 4000+ total time

3800 TT/PIC

Current ATP and Med

No check ride failures

Spotless record and bachelors degree

6 DL pilot referrals


How long have folks been waiting after application submission to hear something?

Anybody in my same boat with low recency hours?

marcal

We’re going from 200/month to 50/month in June or July. A few other airlines have slowed or stopped hiring. It’s going to be tougher and take longer than the last few years. Competition will get tougher. Do you have the ability to fly 121 regional while you wait?

Meme In Command

Congrats on your new found freedom, I got out about the same time. You may not be hearing back for 2 reasons:

-App not reviewed/ don't have all the right buzzwords and formatting in there.

-Recency

In the past there have been discussions about it here and I can't pinpoint the exact post but recency is for sure something they look at. By the way if/when you interview make sure you have a good answer for this 18 month break, almost 100% chance they ask.

FangsF15

There was a time not that long ago, where semi-official policy was that DL will only review an app once annually. If anyone has more current info on that, please chime in. In addition, an internal rec (filled out on Airlineapps) will guarantee an app review. The fact you have not heard anything in 2 months does not necessarily mean they have passed you by.

AFAIK, your stats should land you solidly in the top tier (other than recency), and result in a call soon. As others have said, with a slowdown/normalization in hiring, it may take a little longer to percolate to the top of that list to get the invite.

All that said, particularly with lower recency, I would strongly recommend putting in your apps to LCC and regional airlines as well. Many mil pilots with lower recency have had to take that route, and gotten a call very quickly upon reaching 100 hours.

Best of Luck.

Charlie1234

Thanks for the reply. I figured it would be a little slower after the DL announcement in Jan. I had not been really looking at regionals, but if it helps my case I am definitely not scoffing it. If the wait becomes too long I will expand my search and hopefully get on with a quality 121 to get back to more normal flying recency and currency. Any recommendations on higher quality regionals/LCCs and ones to avoid?

Cheers!

Charlie1234

Thanks for the replies. I figured it would be a little slower after the announcement in Jan. If/when the board asks, I've been a military simulator instructor these past 18 months but that doesn't help my flight hours. I had not been looking at regionals, but if it helps my case I am definitely not scoffing it. If the wait becomes too long I will expand my search and hopefully get on with a quality 121 to get back to more normal flying recency and currency. Any recommendations on higher quality regionals/LCCs and ones to avoid?

Razor

This is from an article on the front page of yesterday's WSJ. Apparently Delta was serious and is hiring pilots without a college degree at about the same rate as those with a degree. Good for DAL.

"Out of more than 7,500 applicants, Delta has interviewed around 150 people without four-year degrees for pilot jobs, and 70% of them have gotten job offers, around the same offer rate as degree-holders, Hendrick said.

“There’s no trend that shows anyone with a college degree doing better than anyone without a degree in any of our assessments,” he said."

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/career...ts_pos1&page=1

gloopy

I used to be "pro-degree" only from a perspective of a thinner app pile equates to tighter supply equal more pricing power for us. But beyond a certain point lay diminishing returns.

As an actual issue, I've been degree agnostic or even "anti-degree" when the rubber meets the road on this issue, particularly considering how corrupt the entire "Big Edu" industry has become.

Its time to relegate "college at all costs" to the ash heap of history. Its simply not needed in the vast majority of cases and often times is a net setback and financial liability as a start contrast to the "investment in education" hyperbole.