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06-29-2021, 07:32 AM
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Yes you get a PB day if the PR is interrupted, but you may already have credit for it if the PB the day before was also interrupted.
PR is just a notation required because iCrew cant display X days that start at times other than midnight. The PR is actually included in the PB day that you have in the 24 hours before the end of the PR. For example if you have one PB followed by a PR that ends at 0400, you actually have one PB "day" that goes from 0401 the day before until 0400. If that day is interrupted by one minute you get a new PB day, but you don't get double credit for the PB and PR.
The scheduling alert from a while ago gave several examples.
PR is just a notation required because iCrew cant display X days that start at times other than midnight. The PR is actually included in the PB day that you have in the 24 hours before the end of the PR. For example if you have one PB followed by a PR that ends at 0400, you actually have one PB "day" that goes from 0401 the day before until 0400. If that day is interrupted by one minute you get a new PB day, but you don't get double credit for the PB and PR.
The scheduling alert from a while ago gave several examples.
06-29-2021, 08:36 AM
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So just to be clear you have this:
27 X
28 RSV
29 RSV
30 RSV
1 X
And you picked up a 4-day GS starting on the 27th, that ends after midnight on the 1st.
If that is the case the time for the 27th is single pay no credit, the time for the rest of the trip is pay and credit. You get 9 hours off until 09XX on the first. Then 2x24 hours (one for the 27th, one for the 1st). Neither of those can be placed in the remaining time in June so you get 2 days in the bank.
27 X
28 RSV
29 RSV
30 RSV
1 X
And you picked up a 4-day GS starting on the 27th, that ends after midnight on the 1st.
If that is the case the time for the 27th is single pay no credit, the time for the rest of the trip is pay and credit. You get 9 hours off until 09XX on the first. Then 2x24 hours (one for the 27th, one for the 1st). Neither of those can be placed in the remaining time in June so you get 2 days in the bank.
I am on a 4 day GS that is similar except the entire trip is over PB and PR days. It releases at 0030 so I got an extra PB day in the bank. If you don’t see it on your time card be sure to call scheduling
06-29-2021, 08:36 AM
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Not sure what you mean here, but have only X day left in June so it all must go to the bank.
Thanks to all for the input. I've contacted scheduling and it's resolved.
06-29-2021, 08:59 AM
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This is only true if you have no more on call days to change into PB/PR and are instead putting PB days in the bank. If you have on call days left, the difference between a trip releasing at 1445 and 1515 is only moving the end of your PR 30 minutes later from 2345 to 0015.
I actually should have said "assuming you don't have any PB/PR days on your schedule yet" because it is possible to have PB days due to other reasons.
06-29-2021, 09:41 AM
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Not sure what you mean here, but have only X day left in June so it all must go to the bank.
Thanks to all for the input. I've contacted scheduling and it's resolved.
Thanks to all for the input. I've contacted scheduling and it's resolved.
06-29-2021, 09:44 AM
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It doesn't matter if you have flown a GS before or not. If you have sufficient reserve days left in the bid period to change into payback days, the difference between a trip releasing at 1445 and 1515 is only 30 minutes, not an extra 24 hours.
06-29-2021, 04:59 PM
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Sure about that? The magic release time is 1500 or later (as in, block in at 1430, plus 30 minutes).. Once the nine hours is up, you start your x days immediately and get 24 hours off for each x day that was violated. In an example one day GS...block in before 1430 equals one day violated. Block in after 1430 equals two days violated, thus an extra 24 hours off
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06-30-2021, 06:42 AM
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Sure about that? The magic release time is 1500 or later (as in, block in at 1430, plus 30 minutes).. Once the nine hours is up, you start your x days immediately and get 24 hours off for each x day that was violated. In an example one day GS...block in before 1430 equals one day violated. Block in after 1430 equals two days violated, thus an extra 24 hours off
1 X GS
2 X GS (release at 1445)
3 X
4 RSV
5 RSV
6 RSV
The pilot gets 9 hours free from duty which takes them to 2345 on the 2nd. They have 2 interrupted plus 1 remaining X day in the block. That gives them 72 hours off from 2345 on the 2nd, and they go back on call at 2345 on the 5th. It will show as PB PB PR (2345).
Take the same scenario with a 1515 release:
1 X GS
2 X GS (release at 1515)
3 X
4 RSV
5 RSV
6 RSV
9 hours free from duty goes to 0015 on the 3rd. The pilot now has 3 interrupted and 0 remaining X days in the block. That gives them 72 hours off from 0015 on the 3rd, and they go back on call at 0015 on the 6th. It will show as PB PB PB PR(0015) The end result of a trip releasing 30 minutes later is that they go back on call 30 minutes later.
If the pilot did not have any RSV days left in the month the extra time would generate another PB day, but thats the only scenario in which you get a full extra day.
06-30-2021, 07:38 AM
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06-30-2021, 08:00 AM
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