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11-07-2021, 05:01 AM
#771
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Bashing of other aircraft is always good fun. Having flown most of them, they all have their reasons to be bashed. 
It's all a crapshoot. They were hiring 100+/month when I was hired and one of the reasons I chose the 73N was because I was sure my seniority would rise crazy fast over the other planes. As it turned out, I stagnated over the next few years as they put almost everyone on 7ER/320/717. I passed on the 7ER because I figured I would have stagnated on it, yet I would have actually enjoyed about 15-20% better seniority on it. Bottom line, it's a little bit of guesswork and a lot of luck. If I were a newhire, I'd probably go to the bus...makes for easier transitions down the road.
*Unless you're staying in NYC, then your seniority will likely explode in anything you pick.
Agreed. Even with the lowered trigger, it's still A LOT of work to fly a full line AND fly GS on top of that. Borrowing from the bank and vacation/training can help but that only goes so far, and in the case of the bank, you'll have to pay it back eventually. Plus, I've only had a month or two where I've flown enough credit to pay back the bank in years...that's a lot of work.
And that was a great strategy way back when you got hired but it’s not necessarily true today when the company is hiring 150 per month for the next year or more. Now, guys can have 30 NH under them in category by the time they start training and 60-70 by the time they finish OE. They are not likely to sit reserve as long as back in the day. There’s just too much hiring for that. Disclaimer: Each NH is obligated to look at the playing field, numbers, and do their own research.
*Unless you're staying in NYC, then your seniority will likely explode in anything you pick.
If you are holding a line and doing GS’s you are prob working more than anyone on reserve that isn’t. That’s the biggest problem with having a line is that you actually have to fly it plus the greenies(unless you are bought off obviously).
You can make way more as a line holder doing green slips but you really have to do a lot of flying you can makes in my opinion a little bit less on reserve doing Greenslip’s if you’re not rolling thunder but you usually don’t have to work anywhere near as hard.
You can make way more as a line holder doing green slips but you really have to do a lot of flying you can makes in my opinion a little bit less on reserve doing Greenslip’s if you’re not rolling thunder but you usually don’t have to work anywhere near as hard.
11-07-2021, 05:18 AM
#772
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Agreed. Even with the lowered trigger, it's still A LOT of work to fly a full line AND fly GS on top of that. Borrowing from the bank and vacation/training can help but that only goes so far, and in the case of the bank, you'll have to pay it back eventually. Plus, I've only had a month or two where I've flown enough credit to pay back the bank in years...that's a lot of work.
11-07-2021, 05:40 AM
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11-07-2021, 06:03 AM
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11-07-2021, 06:20 AM
#775
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Check out http://widgetseniority.com
I’m also waiting on indoc & found lots of good info on the site comparing seniority in different jets at each domicile.
I’m also waiting on indoc & found lots of good info on the site comparing seniority in different jets at each domicile.
11-07-2021, 07:05 AM
#776
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Check out http://widgetseniority.com
I’m also waiting on indoc & found lots of good info on the site comparing seniority in different jets at each domicile.
I’m also waiting on indoc & found lots of good info on the site comparing seniority in different jets at each domicile.
11-07-2021, 07:22 AM
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11-07-2021, 10:47 AM
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I've been in the same category for 4+ years, and a large majority of greenies go out during holidays or weekends, which is exactly when said noob is already on a RES on call day.
For those not familiar with how DL greenslips go out, the big picture is you can't get a 2nd one unless everyone junior to you who was eligible / available on that day got their 1st. So a senior guy getting a 2nd GS doesn't mean everyone junior to them in the entire category already has 1 greenslip.
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