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Old 11-05-2021, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
In year past (pre-covid), they would normally have one giant Indoc class than ran the first two weeks of Dec, so no Indoc over Christmas.

However, the sims run almost 365...they are closed on Christmas, but I think I read somewhere recently of someone who was starting their IQ sims on the 26th, so depending on the start time, maybe a travel day late on the 25th.

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Old 11-05-2021, 11:06 AM
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Our class it’s the 220 and 717, a buddy of mine got the 717 as his 5th choice. I picked up the 717 as first because of location. Each class will be slightly different but most of my class had the 320, 73, 7ER as their top three choices.


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Still almost three months away from my class, but wondered what's the logic behind the order of the top choices?
Is it new delivery schedules, quicker seniority, shorter reserve, a type you're familiar with, trip pairings or something else?

Any intel would be appreciated. My understanding is that they don't give you more than a day to submit your choices, so advance knowledge is required.
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Old 11-05-2021, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mach86
Still almost three months away from my class, but wondered what's the logic behind the order of the top choices?
Is it new delivery schedules, quicker seniority, shorter reserve, a type you're familiar with, trip pairings or something else?

Any intel would be appreciated. My understanding is that they don't give you more than a day to submit your choices, so advance knowledge is required.
My guess is the main drivers are pay rates and location/quickest route to preferred base.
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Old 11-05-2021, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mach86
Still almost three months away from my class, but wondered what's the logic behind the order of the top choices?
Is it new delivery schedules, quicker seniority, shorter reserve, a type you're familiar with, trip pairings or something else?

Any intel would be appreciated. My understanding is that they don't give you more than a day to submit your choices, so advance knowledge is required.
Logic differs with each person. Some want to go straight to International so they bid ER. Some want seniority quicker they take the 717 or 220.

Others will take any plane offered that allows them to drive to work and not commute.

I wouldn’t spend too many brain bytes trying to figure it out...you'd be chasing a ghost.

You can't control what the people senior to you are going to choose. Figure out which planes/bases work best for YOU, and rank order them...that's all you can do.

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Old 11-05-2021, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Logic differs with each person. Some want to go straight to International so they bid ER. Some want seniority quicker they take the 717 or 220.

Others will take any plane offered that allows them to drive to work and not commute.

I would't spend too many brain bytes trying to figure it out...you'd be chasing a ghost.

You can't control what the people senior to you are going to choose. Figure out which planes/bases work best for YOU, and rank order them...that's all you can do.

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This. I went with most likely quickest to Atlanta. One individual is our group obviously went for money because they mentioned how much more they will make over the 220/717 peeps. So want to get to a west coast domicile. Don’t try to figure it out. Just bud what works for you and enjoy. Remember that seat lock is generally two years (from my understanding there is a few ways around that) and first year pay is the same across the board. I know there will be plenty of movement in the next two years and with all the hiring I should have more flexibility in what I can bid and hold Atlanta.

Bottom line try to get what you want and don’t try to figure out what the other 47 peeps in you class are trying to do.


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Old 11-05-2021, 12:41 PM
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This. I went with most likely quickest to Atlanta.

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What equipment is that these days, assuming no ATL on the class drop?
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Old 11-05-2021, 12:48 PM
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If I want to get to widebody ASAP, is there any particular initial drop I should prioritize to help facilitate that? I was thinking 320 since it would make for an easy transition to 330. Does the 2 year seat lock mean I couldn’t bid widebody until after 2 years?


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Old 11-05-2021, 01:33 PM
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If I want to get to widebody ASAP, is there any particular initial drop I should prioritize to help facilitate that? I was thinking 320 since it would make for an easy transition to 330. Does the 2 year seat lock mean I couldn’t bid widebody until after 2 years?


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The 7ER category includes both the 757, and 767-300, which is a widebody. Not sure how much longer it'll be around or doing any international flying. So if you want to jump right in that's what you should bid. Outside of that it takes more than 2 years to hold any widebody seat (330, 350, 767-400), so your seat lock won't be an issue. There's a chance that WB spots will keep going more junior but it hasn't happened yet. From an ease of training standpoint flying the 320 for a while will make the 330 training a breeze (so I've been told).
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Old 11-05-2021, 01:56 PM
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Thanks! I thought the 7ER was a 737 category, didn’t realize it meant 75/76. I love these forums.


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Originally Posted by IFlyHeavies
If I want to get to widebody ASAP, is there any particular initial drop I should prioritize to help facilitate that? I was thinking 320 since it would make for an easy transition to 330. Does the 2 year seat lock mean I couldn’t bid widebody until after 2 years?


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I’m pretty sure that’s that’s not a factor and I don’t think you could get into the 330 at two years for looking at the seniority charts but I guess a lot of stuff could change.


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