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Old 10-19-2021, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
ANC MIATA FE.

Might be able to hold NYC by the time your probation ends though
How long is the seat lock on the Miata?

Also, serious question, how long is the seat lock for a NHs first airframe?
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Old 10-19-2021, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tankerclown23
How long is the seat lock on the Miata?
6-9 months.
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Old 10-19-2021, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tankerclown23
As a “0xxx” social starting indoc in about a month, I’m curious to hear what everyone thinks the last few to pick got left with?
220 and 717
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Old 10-19-2021, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tankerclown23
How long is the seat lock on the Miata?

Also, serious question, how long is the seat lock for a NHs first airframe?
“An entry level pilot will incur a 24-month category freeze”

Unless you are awarded Captain within that timeframe, then it’s waived (remainder added to new freeze).

Edit to add: there is another exception in the PWA after 12 months if transferring bases. 22.G.2
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Old 10-19-2021, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bergman
Edit to add: there is another exception in the PWA after 12 months if transferring bases. 22.G.2
Yeah, so if you get A220s you can switch to ATL anything after 12 months, because the A220 is not in ATL. But any seat lock you had left gets added to your new seat lock. So if you went to ATL 73NB after 12 months on the 220, you’d then have 12 months added to your new seat lock.
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Old 10-20-2021, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BreakAway
Nyc 7er - 8
nyc 73n - 10
nyc 320 - 9
nyc 220 - 11
dtw 717 - 6
That’s the largest class I’ve seen on here. Are class sizes increasing? How many per month are there right now and when are the next few?
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Old 10-20-2021, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by flyOH
That’s the largest class I’ve seen on here. Are class sizes increasing? How many per month are there right now and when are the next few?
I think they plan on classes of 40-50 pretty much every week now for a long time, except maybe skipping one or two weeks around the holidays.
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Old 10-20-2021, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Bergman
“An entry level pilot will incur a 24-month category freeze”

Unless you are awarded Captain within that timeframe, then it’s waived (remainder added to new freeze).

Edit to add: there is another exception in the PWA after 12 months if transferring bases. 22.G.2
Category is base/equipment/seat.

Noobs have a seat lock, not a category lock.
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Old 10-20-2021, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Category is base/equipment/seat.

Noobs have a seat lock, not a category lock.
I’m not looking to get into a semantics argument in any way, but this is a direct quote from the PWA, “An entry level pilot will incur a 24-month category freeze”.

So it IS a category lock with some caveats (as I mentioned) which make it closer to a seat lock in some cases.
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Originally Posted by Bergman
I’m not looking to get into a semantics argument in any way, but this is a direct quote from the PWA, “An entry level pilot will incur a 24-month category freeze”.

So it IS a category lock with some caveats (as I mentioned) which make it closer to a seat lock in some cases.
Semantics are important since so many of our PWA grievances revolve around loose language.

I will agree that an "entry level pilot" does have a category lock IAW with PWA 22.G.2

However, PWA defines "Entry Level Pilot" as a pilot that hasn't finished initial OE...once you finished IOE, you are no longer an entry level pilot.

And, take a look at this recent AE results....hell there are entry level pilots on that list that haven't even started IOE yet (EDV flow) and they went from NYC to ATL.

The M.O of the company is they treat it as a 24 month seat lock, not a category lock.

I will write to my LEC to recommend that inconsistency / confusion in that language get cleaned up.
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