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Old 08-17-2023, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
Yeah now that things have normalized I would be willing to bet that we don't see any top paying widebody to new hires for at least another 2 decades closer to 3. And it'll take today's new hire about 15 years to hold widebody FO.
I completely agree, NH’s to WB are relegated to a Covid peculiarly.

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'old' wouldn't have the -ER on it. 😁
Lol, fair point. 😉😂
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Old 08-17-2023, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
'old' wouldn't have the -ER on it. 😁
I believe that new hires have gotten 7ER off and on since 2014 at least. IIRC there were a few that got it back in 2010?
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
'old' wouldn't have the -ER on it. 😁
It’s 2023, that means Extra Regional now.
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
'old' wouldn't have the -ER on it. 😁
Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg
I believe that new hires have gotten 7ER off and on since 2014 at least. IIRC there were a few that got it back in 2010?
from discussions with pilots from before 2014, NH used to not have a seat lock. I think that is a huge part of the reason.

Lots of older pilots have mentioned their only options in indoc were 727C or 737 express B, but in some cases it only took a few months before they could bid another position. I’ve flown with more than a couple pilots hired in 96-97 who told me they were 7ER B s before they were off probation.

I can only imagine the (even worse) training nightmare we would have had post Covid if NH did not have a seat lock.
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
It’s 2023, that means Extra Regional now.
Just in ATL 🤣
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Hiring started to ramp up late summer/early autumn 2021, those guys are all losing their locks soon, that’ll bring a lot of possible bidders to WB B.
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Old 08-17-2023, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
from discussions with pilots from before 2014, NH used to not have a seat lock. I think that is a huge part of the reason.

C12 had a 1 year NH seat lock. I can’t speak to before that.
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Old 08-17-2023, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
Hiring started to ramp up late summer/early autumn 2021, those guys are all losing their locks soon, that’ll bring a lot of possible bidders to WB B.
but they’re all too junior to hold it anyways. WBB is in the 11’s but not 12’s+

maybe next year if 67 doesn’t pass and the deliveries hold up
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
from discussions with pilots from before 2014, NH used to not have a seat lock. I think that is a huge part of the reason.

Lots of older pilots have mentioned their only options in indoc were 727C or 737 express B, but in some cases it only took a few months before they could bid another position. I’ve flown with more than a couple pilots hired in 96-97 who told me they were 7ER B s before they were off probation.

I can only imagine the (even worse) training nightmare we would have had post Covid if NH did not have a seat lock.
back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, we had 727C or 727C. And those that got to stay were on it for 5+ years.
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Old 08-18-2023, 01:35 PM
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Starting Indoc in about 5 weeks. So with seat locks for a lot of people expiring soon is it silly to bid WB (if a spot is even available) considering I might get displaced or just take the WB spot if it’s available? Would I be displaced if someone Senior to me bid for the ER?
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