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06-06-2023, 02:13 PM
#4381
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,893
I have a CJO but waiting for class. Friends before me have gotten classes on both Mondays and Tuesdays. Is that actually a thing? For example there was a May 9 class (Tuesday) but then this month there are 6/5 and 6/19 classes (Mondays). So should I expect something on a Monday, maybe 7/3 or 7/17? Thanks
06-06-2023, 07:06 PM
#4382
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2021
Posts: 76
I have a CJO but waiting for class. Friends before me have gotten classes on both Mondays and Tuesdays. Is that actually a thing? For example there was a May 9 class (Tuesday) but then this month there are 6/5 and 6/19 classes (Mondays). So should I expect something on a Monday, maybe 7/3 or 7/17? Thanks
06-07-2023, 05:40 AM
#4386
Leaves Biscoff crumbs
Joined APC: Jan 2020
Position: Blue Juice Taste Tester
Posts: 1,363
What's wrong with ATL? It's so easy to fly in and out of there. Almost as easy as MSP but without the constant runway changes.
NYC on the other hand is the one place I've ever taxied for 3 hours, the controllers are perpetually angry and they love making you go fast, then slow you down, then immediately get mad at you for not slowing down fast enough.
NYC on the other hand is the one place I've ever taxied for 3 hours, the controllers are perpetually angry and they love making you go fast, then slow you down, then immediately get mad at you for not slowing down fast enough.
06-07-2023, 05:50 AM
#4387
On Reserve
Joined APC: May 2023
Posts: 14
Not to throw a wrench in your plans/planning, but even a -99xx SS may not be awarded your first pick. Previous Delta employees in your class get first picks (moved to the top of the list no matter what their SS# is) and recent classes have had anywhere from one to six previous D employees per class who bump those high SS# back a few picks down the list. Recently these have included former FAs, gate agents, baggage handlers, cabin cleaners, Propel participants and others who previously were Delta employees who are now hired as pilots (but have a previous employee number).
06-07-2023, 05:52 AM
#4388
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 4,986
What's wrong with ATL? It's so easy to fly in and out of there. Almost as easy as MSP but without the constant runway changes.
NYC on the other hand is the one place I've ever taxied for 3 hours, the controllers are perpetually angry and they love making you go fast, then slow you down, then immediately get mad at you for not slowing down fast enough.
NYC on the other hand is the one place I've ever taxied for 3 hours, the controllers are perpetually angry and they love making you go fast, then slow you down, then immediately get mad at you for not slowing down fast enough.
However, if the argument is that touching ATL makes you more susceptible to a reroute, I might concede that point. But with the new reroute rules starting 1 Aug, I'm actually okay with that.
06-07-2023, 08:57 AM
#4389
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,896
ATL is the best designed airport in the world, bar none. Ain't even close. Which makes it predicable. And easy. I genuinely don't get the angst.
However, if the argument is that touching ATL makes you more susceptible to a reroute, I might concede that point. But with the new reroute rules starting 1 Aug, I'm actually okay with that.
However, if the argument is that touching ATL makes you more susceptible to a reroute, I might concede that point. But with the new reroute rules starting 1 Aug, I'm actually okay with that.
Volume of traffic is the big differentiator here, but it just adds to the reasons folks don't like flying there. I think DTW is far more predictable and a better layout, especially when you consider the E/W runways are pretty much indefinitely closed. You almost never have to cross an active runway, and if you do, it's rarely more than a 30 second wait. I almost never have to sit "in the alley" to wait for traffic to move to get to my gate...in fact, I rarely have to stop rolling. A "busy" lineup is 2 or 3 jets (read fewer delays/less reroute potential). They almost exclusively stick to the runway for the arrival you're on (I'll concede that, post rona, ATL seems to be doing a better job at this...or maybe it's because I avoid ATL lol). I'm rarely slowed, held or vectored off the arrival for spacing to rejoin later. Even if forced to walk A1 to A78 in DTW, it's generally quicker than going from T4 to A30 in ATL (nevermind going to C52). I rarely have to wade through a sea of people in DTW. I almost always keep the jet when I pass through DTW (another big factor).
But yes your second point is the biggest factor for why I often bid avoid if landing in ATL. For me, it's reroute city. The only time I've been rerouted on my current plane was on days I was flying through ATL. Two of the biggest factors I've seen that greatly impact your chances for a reroute...flying past 1300-1400 and landings in ATL.
06-07-2023, 10:25 AM
#4390
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
Posts: 10,571
ATL is the best designed airport in the world, bar none. Ain't even close. Which makes it predicable. And easy. I genuinely don't get the angst.
However, if the argument is that touching ATL makes you more susceptible to a reroute, I might concede that point. But with the new reroute rules starting 1 Aug, I'm actually okay with that.
However, if the argument is that touching ATL makes you more susceptible to a reroute, I might concede that point. But with the new reroute rules starting 1 Aug, I'm actually okay with that.
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