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Old 05-27-2023, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by allmyinq
Hello, I'm actually going to be a part of this class.

Question for those who might know the answer -my first choice would've been 7ERB out of LAX but being that it is not offered for this class, would 7ERB (ATL or NYC) be a good choice to be able to get back in to LAX quickly?
Or would the 320B or 73NB make more sense for this purpose?

Thank you very much for any help on this matter...
That's a tough question to answer, as there is some risk associated as I'm sure you know. Obviously, 320 or 73 would be a sure thing, assuming you can hold it with your last 4 SSN.

There is a good chance you will be able to successfully bid via an AE on the yet-to-be-officially-announced June bid back to LA on the 7ER, but there is no guarantee there will be a slot, or that it would get down to your seniority (ALWAYS have a bid in regardless of what is published). One thing possibly helping your case is the closing/further displacement of the SEA 7ER base soon. Some of that flying will likely flow down to the LAX base which will require a small number of additional pilots. It really depends on how much importance you put on flying the 7ER vs. being in LA. If you are willing to commute for a time, go for the 7ER. But if you already live in LA and would have a long or double-leg commute to ATL or NYC, that might favor taking the 'sure thing'. Good luck, and welcome to Delta!
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Old 05-27-2023, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FNiner
You would be able to bid a new base in the Advanced Entitlement that is coming later in June. 7ERB has had unbid positions in LAX the last few AEs so I’d imagine you’d have no issue getting to LAX and converting before you even finish OE. However, there hasn’t been an AE in the last 6 months, so there might be others hired this year that are also waiting to bid LAX. We can’t predict what will happen but I’d say the likelihood of getting LAX is high.
To add onto that, bid a base/fleet that you are comfortable commuting to for a while. You wouldn’t want to get stuck in a bad commute because you were planning on holding LAX on this next AE but then weren’t awarded a position. Not sure what your in-class seniority is but definitely put the 717 options last as getting put on that fleet will absolutely be your slowest path to LAX.
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Old 05-27-2023, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
That's a tough question to answer, as there is some risk associated as I'm sure you know. Obviously, 320 or 73 would be a sure thing, assuming you can hold it with your last 4 SSN.

There is a good chance you will be able to successfully bid via an AE on the yet-to-be-officially-announced June bid back to LA on the 7ER, but there is no guarantee there will be a slot, or that it would get down to your seniority (ALWAYS have a bid in regardless of what is published). One thing possibly helping your case is the closing/further displacement of the SEA 7ER base soon. Some of that flying will likely flow down to the LAX base which will require a small number of additional pilots. It really depends on how much importance you put on flying the 7ER vs. being in LA. If you are willing to commute for a time, go for the 7ER. But if you already live in LA and would have a long or double-leg commute to ATL or NYC, that might favor taking the 'sure thing'. Good luck, and welcome to Delta!
I think Tcco on here is LAX ER so he/she will have some good input on that base and flying.
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Old 05-27-2023, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by UGBSM
My "good ole days" at the five year point with Delta: Just got back from a 2 1/2 year furlough and was the plug on the 727 engineer panel in ATL. So no, not ER Capt at 80%. Enjoy it newbies !!!
Ooooh, don't say stuff like this, otherwise you'll be accused of being a cranky boomer. Get with the program.
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Old 05-27-2023, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Ooooh, don't say stuff like this, otherwise you'll be accused of being a cranky boomer. Get with the program.
Nope, I fully recognize right now is phenomenal and something that previous generations never had. I’m beyond grateful for the opportunities afforded to me, just a few years on from holding a furlough letter. That’s the same opinion for just about everybody I else.
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Old 05-27-2023, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FNiner
You would be able to bid a new base in the Advanced Entitlement that is coming later in June. 7ERB has had unbid positions in LAX the last few AEs so I’d imagine you’d have no issue getting to LAX and converting before you even finish OE. However, there hasn’t been an AE in the last 6 months, so there might be others hired this year that are also waiting to bid LAX. We can’t predict what will happen but I’d say the likelihood of getting LAX is high.
This is great information, thank you very much!
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Old 05-27-2023, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
That's a tough question to answer, as there is some risk associated as I'm sure you know. Obviously, 320 or 73 would be a sure thing, assuming you can hold it with your last 4 SSN.

There is a good chance you will be able to successfully bid via an AE on the yet-to-be-officially-announced June bid back to LA on the 7ER, but there is no guarantee there will be a slot, or that it would get down to your seniority (ALWAYS have a bid in regardless of what is published). One thing possibly helping your case is the closing/further displacement of the SEA 7ER base soon. Some of that flying will likely flow down to the LAX base which will require a small number of additional pilots. It really depends on how much importance you put on flying the 7ER vs. being in LA. If you are willing to commute for a time, go for the 7ER. But if you already live in LA and would have a long or double-leg commute to ATL or NYC, that might favor taking the 'sure thing'. Good luck, and welcome to Delta!

Thank you and glad to be joining the team! And thank you all for the guidance!
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Old 05-28-2023, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat
Not as good when UAL numbers are from a yr ago. That graph is different today.
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Old 05-28-2023, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by akscott60
No DTW717 and we are really getting short on the B side. Interesting.
Atlanta is picking up the DTW and MSP flying now. Look at the June bid packet.
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Old 05-28-2023, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
I think Tcco on here is LAX ER so he/she will have some good input on that base and flying.
Yes sir!

for those asking…I assume it will be easy to get back to LAX ER on next bid, we’ve had unbid vacancies for about every AE over the last year. Most notably the most on last AE. Something like 60+.

We still have a ton of flying in LAX. Transcon/DTW/ATL on domestic side. 1 HNL (becoming 2 again, that usually then goes to out of base HNL flying SLC/MSP)
latin America is still strong to GUA/SAL/SJO. Sometimes SAL decreases but GUA/SJO can’t be flown by our other airplanes yet they’ve said.

Tahiti resumes out of LAX in Oct to late May again. They told us base will grow/take over the SEA stuff when they close the base, most notably the charter flying. LAX ER they said will likely remain same size or grow a little until late 2025’s. That’s when charter contract is up with NBA. Whether it’s renewed or not is unknown. So feel comfortable to head out west. Our trips are pretty good, lot of us senior people swap and drop. So even junior guys get good trips.

we’ve also seen a massive uptick in Europe trips through JFK built as 5 days. That’s all I’ve been doing last 2 months.
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