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04-10-2023, 07:06 AM

#4151

OOfff

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Originally Posted by Poydras

Hi all,
just got an interview date. I am almost 53. Boeing experience. What are the chances for ATL/JFK 76 flying? What, in your opinion will be an upgrade time on wide body on those bases? Thank you.
CJ

you’ll be easily able to hold the 75/76 (7ER in delta words) either on your initial bid or within 2 years after. Currently, upgrade on it is very short, but that’s now, not 6 months from now.

you’ll likely never hold much widebody intl flying on it out of ATL as a captain, and even in nyc will be primarily domestic or reserve if you upgrade. Any bigger widebody captain is unlikely with that much time left.

04-10-2023, 07:13 AM

#4152

runinonfumes

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Originally Posted by Poydras

the 7ER you should be able to get on in new hire if your SS# are mid range and up. If the past year upgrades keep going the way they have you can hold CA in the 7ER in ATL or JFK with in your first year here.

Now if you are asking about The 765 category, never say never, but I wouldn’t plan on you ever seeing the left side of that machine.

Congrats and good luck with the interview!

04-10-2023, 09:25 PM

#4153

Herkin

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Originally Posted by KWH53

With an expected AE in the early June timeframe, what kind of drops does everyone expect? 717s galore or a wide variety? I'll certainly be happy with ANY, but curious as I start in June...

If a June AE happens and I have just attended indoc on May 16th and was awarded DTW 717B, can I only bid a different base on the AE due to a seat lock, or is anything open since I have not yet started the training syllabus?

04-11-2023, 01:29 AM

#4154

FangsF15

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Originally Posted by Herkin

Correct. You are seat locked for 24 months, and cannot switch equipment until after 1 year at the earliest, and then only if you switch to a base you cannot hold the 717 in (or upgrade to captain). By the time you actually train and convert, it may be well past 1 year. PWA 22.G.2

You can switch bases (ATL in your case) on the 717 immediately if your seniority can hold it.

04-11-2023, 04:37 AM

#4155

Notarealpilot

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Originally Posted by FangsF15

So if you bid ATL 717 in initial and want to switch to widebody B in NYC can you get it in the AE? Since there is no 717 in NYC does that bypass the 24 month seat lock for the 12 month?

04-11-2023, 04:39 AM

#4156

tennisguru

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Originally Posted by FangsF15

Its unlikely, but the company can break seat locks at their discretion. So you can BID whatever you want whenever you want. No one should limit their bid just because they’re under a seat lock. Let the company sort out if they want to break your lock with a new award or not.

04-11-2023, 05:55 AM

#4157

Baradium

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Originally Posted by Notarealpilot

So if you bid ATL 717 in initial and want to switch to widebody B in NYC can you get it in the AE? Since there is no 717 in NYC does that bypass the 24 month seat lock for the 12 month?

Not that AE, but the effective lock would be 12 months. Likewise if you awarded A330 in NYC you'd be able to bid SEA 73N after 12 months since you couldn't hold 330 in SEA. The rule is you can't hold it, not that it doesn't exist.

04-11-2023, 09:42 AM

#4158

FangsF15

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Originally Posted by tennisguru

Its unlikely, but the company can break seat locks at their discretion. So you can BID whatever you want whenever you want. No one should limit their bid just because they’re under a seat lock. Let the company sort out if they want to break your lock with a new award or not.

Absolutely true. You can’t get what you don’t bid, so BWYWWWYB.

But I would have zero expectation for a NH to get that approved before even starting IQ.