New Hire Class Drops
12-15-2022, 10:56 AM
#3411
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: LAX ER
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Reserve life here is fantastic and anyone that says otherwise probably hasn’t bud reserve in last decade and is afraid of it because they don’t know how it works. Some were being sarcastic in this thread because they are loving reserve so much they don’t want the secret out, therefore telling people it sucks so you don’t bid it (for the people senior to you)….and that’s why senior folks on widebody bid it so often. New AIP also has no gives on PB days and the reserve rules are furthermore getting another improvement to make it even better than it was. I would NOT worry about sitting reserve
12-15-2022, 11:25 AM
#3412
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Position: Supreme Allied Commander
Posts: 1,074
Reserve life here is fantastic and anyone that says otherwise probably hasn’t bud reserve in last decade and is afraid of it because they don’t know how it works. Some were being sarcastic in this thread because they are loving reserve so much they don’t want the secret out, therefore telling people it sucks so you don’t bid it (for the people senior to you)….and that’s why senior folks on widebody bid it so often. New AIP also has no gives on PB days and the reserve rules are furthermore getting another improvement to make it even better than it was. I would NOT worry about sitting reserve
Language pending.
12-15-2022, 11:56 AM
#3413
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: LAX ER
Posts: 1,606
The AIP may have some additional nice QOL adds for reserves (18LC, paid SC, no Res to line transition screwjob). But I think rolling thunder is gone. In short staffed months, reserves will be flying on their on-call days while line holders take all the excess opentime at 200%. The short notice stuff will go to reserves or airport standby. I wouldn't expect to see reserve GS, and definitely not PB days creating rolling thunder. Just means when staffing is really bad, reserves will work 60+hrs for reserve guarantee vs same/less block for 100-150+ pay.
Language pending.
Language pending.
12-15-2022, 12:35 PM
#3415
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Position: UNA
Posts: 4,636
12-15-2022, 04:44 PM
#3416
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,997
I suspect that some commuters may love this provision.
12-15-2022, 05:06 PM
#3417
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Joined APC: Apr 2009
Position: Middle Seat
Posts: 1,228
It will be interesting to see where this voluntary airport standby would be on the coverage ladder. Would they get called before GS? Could the company use them for trips greater than 1 hour to report? Greater than 2 hours?
12-15-2022, 05:17 PM
#3418
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Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,836
I can see commuters loving this, but this will have a bigger impact on GSs than anything else out there. This language needs to be solid otherwise another slippery slope allowing pilots trip over themselves for a few extra hours that would otherwise be a GS.
It will be interesting to see where this voluntary airport standby would be on the coverage ladder. Would they get called before GS? Could the company use them for trips greater than 1 hour to report? Greater than 2 hours?
It will be interesting to see where this voluntary airport standby would be on the coverage ladder. Would they get called before GS? Could the company use them for trips greater than 1 hour to report? Greater than 2 hours?
Any pilot with a WS in gets first shot unless the trip is under 30 minutes to report. Barring a WS pickup:
LC: covers anything greater than 18 hours to report
SC: covers anything less than 18 down to 4 hours prior to report. This eliminates the whole "two hour callout" debate. If no SC pilots are available and no in- or out-of-base pilots WS the trip it must go to GS
Anything less than 4 hours down to say, 30 minutes prior to report must start the GS step. GS callouts can be stopped 30 minutes prior to report and the trip can be assigned to an airport reserve if one is available.
12-15-2022, 05:29 PM
#3419
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Joined APC: Nov 2017
Position: NYC 7ERA
Posts: 2,056
Now here is the question for me..
I may be semi-interested in Airport Standby, as I have to commute in for Short Call (I can stand LC at home currently, but is much mo easy with 18hr LC)
NYC.. How are they gonna figure out that one. Especially with categories like the 320 and 737 that have a fairly even split LGA/JFK and a fair amount to EWR.
Back when I was on the ER, the expectation to stand "Airport Short Call" at JFK would have made sense, as 95% or more of our departures were from there. (some EWR, occasional DH from LGA) But what do you do with NB categories that cover all the airports?
I may be semi-interested in Airport Standby, as I have to commute in for Short Call (I can stand LC at home currently, but is much mo easy with 18hr LC)
NYC.. How are they gonna figure out that one. Especially with categories like the 320 and 737 that have a fairly even split LGA/JFK and a fair amount to EWR.
Back when I was on the ER, the expectation to stand "Airport Short Call" at JFK would have made sense, as 95% or more of our departures were from there. (some EWR, occasional DH from LGA) But what do you do with NB categories that cover all the airports?
12-15-2022, 07:00 PM
#3420
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,636
Now here is the question for me..
I may be semi-interested in Airport Standby, as I have to commute in for Short Call (I can stand LC at home currently, but is much mo easy with 18hr LC)
NYC.. How are they gonna figure out that one. Especially with categories like the 320 and 737 that have a fairly even split LGA/JFK and a fair amount to EWR.
Back when I was on the ER, the expectation to stand "Airport Short Call" at JFK would have made sense, as 95% or more of our departures were from there. (some EWR, occasional DH from LGA) But what do you do with NB categories that cover all the airports?
I may be semi-interested in Airport Standby, as I have to commute in for Short Call (I can stand LC at home currently, but is much mo easy with 18hr LC)
NYC.. How are they gonna figure out that one. Especially with categories like the 320 and 737 that have a fairly even split LGA/JFK and a fair amount to EWR.
Back when I was on the ER, the expectation to stand "Airport Short Call" at JFK would have made sense, as 95% or more of our departures were from there. (some EWR, occasional DH from LGA) But what do you do with NB categories that cover all the airports?
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