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Old 11-03-2022, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyfast16
What does life look like for a NH or extremely junior on the 330B out of NYC? Assuming that individual lives within a 1.5 hours of NYC. Curious about the QOL / schedule.
I can't post bid results on here, but if you are that close to ANY NYC airport, (even if your plane doesn't go there) being able to sit short call on the couch is awesome QOL.

The bottom guy is reserve, one up can hold a line.

Reserve, 2 4 day blocks
3-6, 9-12
One longer block
19-27

Coverage awards.

What long call reserve means at Delta
First day, 1000 earliest call, but must be on your schedule at 1500 day prior.
1501 it goes to 12 hour call.
12 hours or more, they call with either a trip or a Short Call assignment. Trip is : you are there at the report, as scheduled. Figure it out drive time wise or train wise.
Short call: You go on call at the time, which they gave you at least 12 hours notice on. You must be "Promptly Available" which is generally accepted as 2.5 hours to the CLOSEST of EWR, LGA, JFK to you. If it's less than that, you get there when you safely can. And that's in "Normal Traffic Conditions" so if they call you at the peak of rush hour, in a snowstorm to go to EWR and you live in Islip you are in the OK and you get there when you get there.

Most Short Calls are either "it was supposed to leave an hour ago" or "less than 12 hours, but still 5-8 hours out.

As a WB guy at DAL, you never touch LGA unless you are deadheading somewhere.
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Old 11-03-2022, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RunFast
I don’t necessarily disagree, there’s a reason I’m going on 15 years and still in the right seat but as someone like yourself who’s been around a little bit and looking to get to the 330, you have a different perspective. I’ve been mentoring military pilots for 20 years, advice not taken is still advice. And thank you for yours. Cheers.
Well, you def have more experience than me, and have seen a lot more mil guys come to the airline world. My experience is limited to my own, so that’s not much.

I’m just very tired of the NB grind and don’t see it improving any. Once a corporation flexes its python grip on its labor, it never unflexes; I’m not hopeful it’ll get better, and personally think it will only get worse. The optimizer is not going away, nor getting tweaked in our favor.

I can’t see myself doing this job in its current form for another 20 years.
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Old 11-03-2022, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I'm not sure when you get access to Deltanet. But I would peruse the bid packages and awards for due diligence.

7ER: NYC, ATL, SEA, LAX. (SEA will eventually close.)
765 (or 764 depending on where you look -- we can't even be consistent): NYC, ATL.

You will get senior faster in the ER. You will be senior faster in NYC. But there are no bad trips on the -400 if long haul is your thing.
thx for the info GP & E, very helpful.
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Old 11-03-2022, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
100% man. I left another major for DL because of the variety and I don’t regret it for a second.
I might be in the same boat. I have a feeling I won’t regret it as well
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Old 11-04-2022, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ShegotheD
Below is the drop for the 11/8 class..
  • NYC 765B
  • ATL 7ERB
  • NYC 7ERB
  • LAX 7ERB
  • NYC 73NB
  • ATL 320B
  • DTW 320B
  • LAX 320B
  • NYC 320B
  • NYC 330B
The DTW717B drought begins.
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Old 11-04-2022, 02:47 PM
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8/4 CJO, 12/27 class date. Email came today.
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Old 11-05-2022, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by WSBraves
8/4 CJO, 12/27 class date. Email came today.
Thanks for the update. 8/25 CJO here. Waiting, waiting....
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Old 11-05-2022, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CX500T
What long call reserve means at Delta
First day, 1000 earliest call, but must be on your schedule at 1500 day prior.
1501 it goes to 12 hour call.
12 hours or more, they call with either a trip or a Short Call assignment. Trip is : you are there at the report, as scheduled. Figure it out drive time wise or train wise.
Short call: You go on call at the time, which they gave you at least 12 hours notice on. You must be "Promptly Available" which is generally accepted as 2.5 hours to the CLOSEST of EWR, LGA, JFK to you. If it's less than that, you get there when you safely can. And that's in "Normal Traffic Conditions" so if they call you at the peak of rush hour, in a snowstorm to go to EWR and you live in Islip you are in the OK and you get there when you get there.
I would commute from BHM to ATL. With 8 BHM/ATL DAL flights a day and a two hour drive to ATL would short call reserve be doable/keep me out of trouble, from the house? Does DAL have short call and long call monthly lines or is it long call until notified of short call?
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Old 11-05-2022, 03:29 PM
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All long until short assigned.

If you can be at the airport in two hours from your house (may have to pay for short term if tight) I would have zero qualms sitting short call at home.

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Old 11-05-2022, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk987
I would commute from BHM to ATL. With 8 BHM/ATL DAL flights a day and a two hour drive to ATL would short call reserve be doable/keep me out of trouble, from the house? Does DAL have short call and long call monthly lines or is it long call until notified of short call?
While CX said 2 hrs, I would like to highlight that the time to report for a SC assignment is not defined in the PWA. While it’s generally accepted to be 2’ish hours, if it take you 2:15 one day, or 2:30 because you had to drive slow for heavy rain, there is nothing in the PWA that says “thou just be at the airport NLT 2 hrs”
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