New Hire Class Drops
10-25-2022, 07:07 AM
#3141
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: LAX ER
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Every time I say “it won’t happen,” it happens haha. It’s a crazy time for this industry! But I do agree, the 330 is the most senior FO position by a long shot and it takes a 2018/2019 hire to be the plug in any base. There’s a reason for that! Do you know how many more NEOs we have coming?
10-25-2022, 07:13 AM
#3142
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Position: LAX ER
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Funny thing is the junior guys couldn’t even hold reserve in Sep or Oct. that’s generally how it goes on widebody fleets. Hard to say now with so much movement and new hires if that will stay the same but our reserve QOL is really good and especially for widebody fleets. If you were on reserve it might be a better lifestyle and paycheck than being a line holder, truthfully. This isn’t United, don’t worry lol
10-25-2022, 07:18 AM
#3143
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Lots of JNB, SCL and ICN for the junior lineholders though. A few had some HNL layovers as well.
10-25-2022, 07:43 AM
#3144
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2021
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 37
I wouldn't go to the 350 expecting to get reserve consistently. Looking at the Nov skeds, 20 of the bottom 30 had schedules, including the last 2 plugs. Reserve was dispersed pretty evenly throughout the list.
Lots of JNB, SCL and ICN for the junior lineholders though. A few had some HNL layovers as well.
Lots of JNB, SCL and ICN for the junior lineholders though. A few had some HNL layovers as well.
I take it, that once on property, I might have a chance to see some bid awards before submitting my actual bid myself?
10-25-2022, 08:04 AM
#3145
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Gotcha, yeah having a chance at the 350 isn’t something I originally anticipated, but might be a good chance to scratch the big plane/ international itch before having kids. But if someone said that the 73N is a lot of island stuff and not forever at the bottom, I’d strongly consider that as well.
I take it, that once on property, I might have a chance to see some bid awards before submitting my actual bid myself?
I take it, that once on property, I might have a chance to see some bid awards before submitting my actual bid myself?
I don't fly the 350 so haven't followed the seasonality of it, but other WB/international heavy planes (765, 330) have seasonality in them whereas the summers are very busy and not so much in the winter. Sometimes in the past in the winter on the 765 when fully manned, over 1/2 the FO's may be on reserve, then during summer when the ALV is high (as is the RSV guarantee), a junior 765 pilot couldn't get reserve unless in the top 1/2 of category.
Welcome aboard, and life can be stressful but good with options.
10-25-2022, 08:05 AM
#3146
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2021
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 37
Yes, in fact you can actually see exactly how someone bids (in PBS) if you like the kind of results they got. It's all listed in the composite reports after every months bid results are posted.
I don't fly the 350 so haven't followed the seasonality of it, but other WB/international heavy planes (765, 330) have seasonality in them whereas the summers are very busy and not so much in the winter. Sometimes in the past in the winter on the 765 when fully manned, over 1/2 the FO's may be on reserve, then during summer when the ALV is high (as is the RSV guarantee), a junior 765 pilot couldn't get reserve unless in the top 1/2 of category.
Welcome aboard, and life can be stressful but good with options.
I don't fly the 350 so haven't followed the seasonality of it, but other WB/international heavy planes (765, 330) have seasonality in them whereas the summers are very busy and not so much in the winter. Sometimes in the past in the winter on the 765 when fully manned, over 1/2 the FO's may be on reserve, then during summer when the ALV is high (as is the RSV guarantee), a junior 765 pilot couldn't get reserve unless in the top 1/2 of category.
Welcome aboard, and life can be stressful but good with options.
10-25-2022, 09:20 AM
#3147
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Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 104
Gotcha, yeah having a chance at the 350 isn’t something I originally anticipated, but might be a good chance to scratch the big plane/ international itch before having kids. But if someone said that the 73N is a lot of island stuff and not forever at the bottom, I’d strongly consider that as well.
I take it, that once on property, I might have a chance to see some bid awards before submitting my actual bid myself?
I take it, that once on property, I might have a chance to see some bid awards before submitting my actual bid myself?
You bid for airframe before going to class. I think the Tuesday before. If you have any friends already at Delta you should consult with them beforehand and and come up with a bid ahead of time.
10-25-2022, 12:43 PM
#3150
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Joined APC: Dec 2006
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,370
I think most of the 73N (at least out of ATL) are turns (or at least not layovers). NYC may be different.
You bid for airframe before going to class. I think the Tuesday before. If you have any friends already at Delta you should consult with them beforehand and and come up with a bid ahead of time.
You bid for airframe before going to class. I think the Tuesday before. If you have any friends already at Delta you should consult with them beforehand and and come up with a bid ahead of time.
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