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09-07-2022, 09:53 AM

#2751

FlexManFlex

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Originally Posted by 414to412

32 out (30 to ATL, 1 to Lax, one to MSP), 25 backfills so id guess 7?

Signed, another seat locked DTW B.

So out of 150 total let’s say that’s a good 5%. Makes a big difference for seniority if you look at it that way. Back in the day moving up 5% was a big deal

09-07-2022, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex

I’m in the same boat! I’m near 11,500 seniority and am seat locked for a few more months. I was one of those who bid it but couldn’t get it awarded. Can’t complain tho! I like the idea of junior folks below me. Anyone have a guess on how many new hires will get the 350?

I wonder if we are trying to make changes to this to match United.

09-07-2022, 09:56 AM

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FlexManFlex

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Originally Posted by Kiwikid

I’m high 12’s so didn’t expect anything out of the AE. Know I’m locked for another 1.5 years. Good way to look at it but there may not be any 350 slots available when you or I are lock free.

Yea but we have a bunch of new 350s coming over the next few years. It’ll happen sooner or later and when it does we’ll be happy we have junior folks below us. In the meantime enjoy your seniority on the NB!

09-07-2022, 09:57 AM

#2754

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Originally Posted by fishforfun

I wonder if we are trying to make changes to this to match United.

What policy does United have right now?

09-07-2022, 10:02 AM

#2755

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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex

very true! Although not sure seniority does much since most pairings are no bueno right now.

09-07-2022, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex

I think the contract should be modified so that a pilot can get out of a seat lock before a vacancy can go to a new hire.

09-07-2022, 10:05 AM

#2757

TED74

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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex

What policy does United have right now?

You are not locked out of moving up in pay categories. If you get 737 as a new hire, you can bid (and be awarded) 787 the very next month.

09-07-2022, 10:24 AM

#2758

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Originally Posted by Xray678

I think the contract should be modified so that a pilot can get out of a seat lock before a vacancy can go to a new hire.

100% agree

09-07-2022, 10:29 AM

#2759

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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex

What policy does United have right now?

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United reserve rules drive WB B over there very junior. Their reserve rules heavily disincentivize being junior in anything.

09-07-2022, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by hvydvr

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United reserve rules drive WB B over there very junior. Their reserve rules heavily disincentivize being junior in anything.

Not the same thing. We have hundreds of pilots here who probably want WBB that can’t have it because (unlike UAL) our seat locks fence them off assignments going to junior new hires.