New Hire Class Drops
06-01-2022, 11:31 AM
#2201
Can’t find crew pickup
Joined APC: Jun 2021
Posts: 2,226
fair enough. I was more than a little disappointed that this was how DL did things and ALPA didn’t have any of the NH protection just about everyone else has, but I knew what I was getting into. (With the exception of the paid current/paid in arrears that usually causes a wildly low check after you switch from NH pay to flight pay)
06-01-2022, 01:00 PM
#2202
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,818
Honestly it has nothing to do with ALPA, except for maybe that you can blame them not fixing it in past contracts. They have fixed 2 pretty big things already, with the hopes of more in this next contract to make us competitive to someone who just wants an airline. If you live in someone else’s base, there’s nothing to put in there that’ll fix that pull.
06-01-2022, 03:00 PM
#2203
Can’t find crew pickup
Joined APC: Jun 2021
Posts: 2,226
There’s not really a clean way to fix the skipped paycheck issue. If you either change training pay to be paid in arrears like regular pay or start paying regular line pay from day 1 all you’re doing is moving the missed paycheck to the very start of employment. Depending on when a person starts they could go up to 3 weeks or more after their first day of indoc before getting their first full paycheck. That wouldn’t be terrible if the person’s previous employer also paid in arrears and they were still getting their last check(s) from their old job.
06-01-2022, 06:35 PM
#2204
New Hire
Joined APC: Jul 2020
Posts: 6
New Hire Class Drops
There’s not really a clean way to fix the skipped paycheck issue. If you either change training pay to be paid in arrears like regular pay or start paying regular line pay from day 1 all you’re doing is moving the missed paycheck to the very start of employment. Depending on when a person starts they could go up to 3 weeks or more after their first day of indoc before getting their first full paycheck. That wouldn’t be terrible if the person’s previous employer also paid in arrears and they were still getting their last check(s) from their old job.
It seems like this could be resolved in a number of ways. The first that come to mind are:
1. You could continue to pay training pay during the transition period and deduct a prorated amount over the next X pay periods (e.g. $5K/24 deduction for 12 months)
2. You could advance pay reserve min guarantee as a negative credit to banked hours
I’m still new to this, but it seems like an archaic practice this day in age
06-02-2022, 04:50 AM
#2206
Moderator
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Posts: 5,794
06-02-2022, 06:17 AM
#2207
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,544
"Training pay" needs to go. It needs to be full line pay from day one.
At our salary and career earnings there shouldn't be any angst over a couple week period about when one paycheck hits the bank one time in a career.
Concessionary "training pay" is what needs to be addressed.
At our salary and career earnings there shouldn't be any angst over a couple week period about when one paycheck hits the bank one time in a career.
Concessionary "training pay" is what needs to be addressed.
06-02-2022, 06:41 AM
#2208
Has a furrowed brow
Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 1,197
06-03-2022, 05:55 AM
#2210
It's 5 o'clock somewhere
Joined APC: Oct 2020
Posts: 2,131
Well that's kind of a bummer. That's a pretty big hit.
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