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Old 04-03-2022, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Zero chance they grow by a net 500 planes. Zero.
They aren't claiming 500 net growth. Surely a good amount will be growth. But they got 787s & 350s to retire 1990s 777s, 767s. They also got 321neos/737max to replace 757s, and a crap ton of 50 seat RJs. They are starting the RJ upgauge like we did 10 years ago, just instead using 737s instead of 717s/220s. That will definitely grow their mainline pilot group size.
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Old 04-03-2022, 06:09 PM
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They aren't claiming 500 net growth. Surely a good amount will be growth. But they got 787s & 350s to retire 1990s 777s, 767s. They also got 321neos/737max to replace 757s, and a crap ton of 50 seat RJs. They are starting the RJ upgauge like we did 10 years ago, just instead using 737s instead of 717s/220s. That will definitely grow their mainline pilot group size.
Hard to tell really cause I’m the article he refers to RyanAirs “net growth” and then talk about a theirs being 100 a year. Meaning 500 net growth. I don’t know their order book and don’t see it happening, but I was just posting the article of what he stated.
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Old 04-03-2022, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WakeWash
Hard to tell really cause I’m the article he refers to RyanAirs “net growth” and then talk about a theirs being 100 a year. Meaning 500 net growth. I don’t know their order book and don’t see it happening, but I was just posting the article of what he stated.
When they announced these huge orders last summer, Kirby talked about all the growth and replacements with the whole United Next thing. I'm too lazy to look up an article, but yes they are retiring jets between now and 2025. Their fleet's avg age is the oldest in the USA. The big element of their growth is upgauging smaller gauge (especially RJ counts) with large NBs: 73-8 73-10, 321XLR...offering lots more seats vs the smaller planes they replace.
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Old 04-03-2022, 06:31 PM
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United made a very similar proclamation a few years before Covid. I think they said they would be at 20,000
pilots by 2022. Even before Covid was just a virus fragment in a freezer in Wuhan they weren’t even close.
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Old 04-03-2022, 08:34 PM
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Always remember this…

Scott Kirby is always over hyping things up. He comes from the USAirways trick book. If I don’t trust our management, I trust AA and UAL management even less.

He knows young pilots are looking for the best seniority progression. Most of them say:

1. Delta already hired a lot since 2014, I might not get too senior there.
2. AA has more retirements, but their balance sheet doesn’t get too strong.
3. UAL? Well their bases sucks, but hey!!! I can be a 777 FO, they are growing 500 planes in the next 5 yrs! I should be golden there. SJS and Kirby knows how to play into it. They are even doing their own flight school.

Of course, this is my opinion.
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Old 04-03-2022, 09:33 PM
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So…class drops…
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Old 04-04-2022, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
So…class drops…
^^^ That ^^^
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Old 04-05-2022, 02:58 PM
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Any info on the 4/5 class? Is there a class today?
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Old 04-05-2022, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by runinonfumes
Any info on the 4/5 class? Is there a class today?
Yes class started today
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