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Old 03-10-2022, 10:34 AM
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Would it be worth bidding a 765 if it meant a cross country (one leg) commute? I'm guessing even the NYC765 isn't worth it for someone not living somewhere out east?
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Old 03-10-2022, 10:58 AM
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Lots of uncommutable domestic. Especially if junior.

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Old 03-10-2022, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Sparrowhwk
Would it be worth bidding a 765 if it meant a cross country (one leg) commute? I'm guessing even the NYC765 isn't worth it for someone not living somewhere out east?

You’ll be commuting to nyc for short call reserve, and potentially you could be on reserve for a long long time.
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Old 03-10-2022, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sparrowhwk
Would it be worth bidding a 765 if it meant a cross country (one leg) commute? I'm guessing even the NYC765 isn't worth it for someone not living somewhere out east?

Wouldn’t do a cross-country commute even for Space Shuttle-A!
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Old 03-10-2022, 11:16 AM
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Wouldn’t do a cross-country commute even for Space Shuttle-A!
LOL - so true, yet many will as long as NYC is the majority option for newbies. Hopefully it will be short lived.
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Old 03-10-2022, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Sparrowhwk
Would it be worth bidding a 765 if it meant a cross country (one leg) commute? I'm guessing even the NYC765 isn't worth it for someone not living somewhere out east?
IMO no. The reason its plug position(s) have gone so junior is precisely because the junior tier of its trips are so bad.

Transcon commutes should be avoided if at all possible and never even entertained for widebody Prestige Worldwide ambitions. Especially when it has a lot of double non commutable domestic.
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Old 03-10-2022, 11:27 AM
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They say it’s goin back to its old intl flying like it was pre-Covid but do you trust them? I don’t. I think it will still do lion share of domestic stuff it does now. It’s intl plans are rather bland and repetitive (it’s going to fly every LHR route besides SLC-LHR on the 330). I mean it’s still international flying, don’t get me wrong but right now it’s doing 30ish% intl and what’s that going to increase to? Based on its plans I think it will be 75/25 my guess of intl/domestic AT BEST.
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Old 03-10-2022, 11:46 AM
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They say it’s goin back to its old intl flying like it was pre-Covid but do you trust them? I don’t. I think it will still do lion share of domestic stuff it does now. It’s intl plans are rather bland and repetitive (it’s going to fly every LHR route besides SLC-LHR on the 330). I mean it’s still international flying, don’t get me wrong but right now it’s doing 30ish% intl and what’s that going to increase to? Based on its plans I think it will be 75/25 my guess of intl/domestic AT BEST.
Having the new D1 product doesn’t lend itself to being too useful domestically, save for JFK-LAX. I’d expect it to be on heavy LHR, ZRH, and the like with high value business travel. 75/25% is still better than 320/73/7ER etc, fewer legs, fewer chances to be rerouted, and if you are doing domestic, it’s for what, $30/hr more than an NB/ER?

Based off the primary+unfilled secondaries, there (were) 27 slots for 765 to be filled, not counting two parked 765s to come back online later in the year per AE memo, along with the ATL/JFK balance to shift slightly more towards JFK. 7ER still does 4-5 legs a day on the Mickey Mouse shuttle, 765 would keep anybody off multi leg days by and large. If you live close to JFK and want to totally avoid the other airports, majority of reroutes, etc, I can see the benefit of bidding it.
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Old 03-10-2022, 11:56 AM
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Having the new D1 product doesn’t lend itself to being too useful domestically, save for JFK-LAX. I’d expect it to be on heavy LHR, ZRH, and the like with high value business travel. 75/25% is still better than 320/73/7ER etc, fewer legs, fewer chances to be rerouted, and if you are doing domestic, it’s for what, $30/hr more than an NB/ER?

Based off the primary+unfilled secondaries, there (were) 27 slots for 765 to be filled, not counting two parked 765s to come back online later in the year per AE memo, along with the ATL/JFK balance to shift slightly more towards JFK. 7ER still does 4-5 legs a day on the Mickey Mouse shuttle, 765 would keep anybody off multi leg days by and large. If you live close to JFK and want to totally avoid the other airports, majority of reroutes, etc, I can see the benefit of bidding it.
Exactly. It’s the best if the worst. Possibly 220 if commutability is the goal. 765 has more commutable trips in its bid pack than any of the others below it. If you’re going to be commuting you’re going to be flying day before and out the day after no matter the equipment. If you have a base close with something else then I’d like at that.
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Old 03-12-2022, 07:17 AM
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There's a rumor on the Allegiant page that there's a February new hire who left Allegiant for Delta and now he's talking to the Allegiant CPs and union about coming back to G4 with seniority. Sounds nuts to me. Any of you guys heard about this?
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