Easter Meltdown
06-09-2021, 02:01 PM
#491
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Not legal at all. I encourage all pilots to keep a copy of the contract handy and have a good basic knowledge of section 23.
You should have been very well compensated if you accepted the illegal reroute. This is not a fly now and grieve later situation as it’s black and white in the contract and not a gray area.
You should have been very well compensated if you accepted the illegal reroute. This is not a fly now and grieve later situation as it’s black and white in the contract and not a gray area.
Instead of going to PHX for my 30 hour layover then back; I did an SXM turn and was done.
Yes I got paid properly.
370Esq asked what a "late tag" was, I gave him an example. Not the first time this has happened to me on this fleet. I know of a few others this has happened to as well. Not a singularity.
06-09-2021, 02:32 PM
#492
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Position: DAL 330
Posts: 7,014
Originally Posted by Drum;3247769[b
]It's very legal.[/b] According to DALPA and the PWA.
Instead of going to PHX for my 30 hour layover then back; I did an SXM turn and was done.
Yes I got paid properly.
370Esq asked what a "late tag" was, I gave him an example. Not the first time this has happened to me on this fleet. I know of a few others this has happened to as well. Not a singularity.
Instead of going to PHX for my 30 hour layover then back; I did an SXM turn and was done.
Yes I got paid properly.
370Esq asked what a "late tag" was, I gave him an example. Not the first time this has happened to me on this fleet. I know of a few others this has happened to as well. Not a singularity.
Drum,
You got some bad info - you cannot be legally rerouted prior to your first leg. I have seen it happen and guys took it and have seen guys say no way. Just think back to all the 23K and No ops of last spring - totally not allowed in the PWA.
L. Reroute
17
18 1. A pilot is subject to reroute as defined in Section 23 A. 45.
19 2. A regular pilot may not be rerouted:
20 a. prior to the airborne departure of the first flight segment of his rotation.
Scoop
Last edited by Scoop; 06-09-2021 at 02:48 PM.
06-09-2021, 02:35 PM
#493
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Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: Slingin' Gear and Drinkin' Beer
Posts: 598
I have been burned like that more times than I can count. Seniority means nothing if your 15% seniority trip gets yanked, a reserve gets your layover and you now have a double 9-hour DAY or IND.
06-09-2021, 02:36 PM
#494
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 6,832
It's very legal. According to DALPA and the PWA.
Instead of going to PHX for my 30 hour layover then back; I did an SXM turn and was done.
Yes I got paid properly.
370Esq asked what a "late tag" was, I gave him an example. Not the first time this has happened to me on this fleet. I know of a few others this has happened to as well. Not a singularity.
Instead of going to PHX for my 30 hour layover then back; I did an SXM turn and was done.
Yes I got paid properly.
370Esq asked what a "late tag" was, I gave him an example. Not the first time this has happened to me on this fleet. I know of a few others this has happened to as well. Not a singularity.
boo hoo, I guess
06-09-2021, 02:47 PM
#495
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Position: 3+ hour sit in the ATL
Posts: 1,982
The point being - why bid a schedule when they just re-route at will.
Why even have PBS? Why have seniority?
I mean if you are going to ask that question, lets illustrate the absurdity by being absurd
06-09-2021, 02:49 PM
#496
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That's what I was told. That is what happened.
06-09-2021, 02:50 PM
#497
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Position: DAL 330
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You could have refused it - look at 23.L. in the PWA totally Black and White.
Scoop
06-09-2021, 02:53 PM
#498
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Scoop
06-09-2021, 02:54 PM
#499
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,159
Drum,
You got some bad info - you cannot be legally rerouted prior to your first leg. I have seen it happen and guys took it and have seen guys say no way. Just think back to all the 23K and No ops of last spring - totally not allowed in the PWA.
L. Reroute
17
18 1. A pilot is subject to reroute as defined in Section 23 A. 45.
19 2. A regular pilot may not be rerouted:
20 a. prior to the airborne departure of the first flight segment of his rotation.
Scoop
You got some bad info - you cannot be legally rerouted prior to your first leg. I have seen it happen and guys took it and have seen guys say no way. Just think back to all the 23K and No ops of last spring - totally not allowed in the PWA.
L. Reroute
17
18 1. A pilot is subject to reroute as defined in Section 23 A. 45.
19 2. A regular pilot may not be rerouted:
20 a. prior to the airborne departure of the first flight segment of his rotation.
Scoop
06-09-2021, 03:04 PM
#500
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: DAL 330
Posts: 7,014
If they just changed turns I really don't see an issue - same layovers etc. Then again once you are wheels in the well you are fair game.
Scoop
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