hockeypilot44

Your line of thinking that two guys doing the exact same job in the exact same seat producing the same amount of revenue at the same company with the same responsibility should make different wages is the dumbest thing I have read in a long time. Thankfully we have a contract to protect us because in the real world, company's would just fire the higher paid employees and go with the lower paid.

JamesBond

LOL So I am guessing that if you needed heart surgery you would opt for the cheapest doctor available. After all... same job, right?

theUpsideDown

Benevolent dictatorship.

FangsF15

No, what you wrote is the dumbest thing. It’s the way every PWA at every airline I’m aware of works. Here we get a raise every year until year 12. In the military, it’s every two years. It has always been thus. What you are advocating will never ever ever happen, and is a complete waste of time to take up 30 posts arguing about it.

#StopThreadDrift

Gunfighter

12 yr FO will almost always be more competent than a new hire FO. I think a better comparison would be 12 yr to 5 yr FO. It’s almost as if we start as an apprentice, become a journeyman and eventually a master of our trade. It reminds me of (insert skilled trade here) union.

FL370esq

Sorry...that wasn't entirely clear in your post. However, I would say a 12 year FO still brings more experience than a new hire FO in the exact same seat. The "pay model" rewards experience. Probably why a 2 year associate attorney gets paid less than the 10 year partner when working on the same matter. Like bigger pays more, experience pays more.

Bergman

Can we get back on topic and rename this thead “Spring Meltdown”,then discuss how in the hell we are in “severe IROPS” again this weekend?

Who is steering this ship? When are heads gonna roll for the gross mismanagement of pilot staffing so far this year?

HTBH

Totally agree. It’s gonna be a long time (if ever) that they man this airline properly. And the IROP thing continues to be ridiculous. I remember one December I called scheduling about a payback day or something and they told me they don’t have time to help me because we were in an IROP. I asked why we were in an IROP. Lady said “it’s Christmas” (it was actually two days before Christmas). I was very polite about it but asked why...there were no big storms, no snow events going on, no IT meltdowns in place, we knew this holiday was coming, so...why the IROP and the ability for them to bend the rules on scheduling due to it. Didn’t get a good response. I wonder how we will ever get out QOL back with decent manning and trips at this point. They know they can run the airline with green slips and we’ve proven we will take them (11,000+ in December). What’s a couple hundred cancellations (who knows what the real number is since we don’t cancel flights if at all possible, we’ll just delay them forever) as long as it makes them a penny more in the ledger.

Gunfighter

Memorial day is on a Monday this year, creating a three day weekend at the end of May. Be prepared for the IROPs this unforeseen event will create.

notEnuf

and its a post leap year, or is it pre, pre leapyear?