Easter Meltdown
04-05-2021, 07:06 AM
#121
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They didn't smash and loot and openly thieve from businesses in the name of some fake movement.
They didn't demand corporations bend to their will thru extortion of violence did they?
Most of that breech was committed by agent provocateurs. Many cases against the non-antifa dropped by the DoJ.
Its sad someone can be so blind as you to reality. There is no going back as DALFA said, this is the way it will be until it isn't.
I don't want to be around for that. Neither do you.
04-05-2021, 07:08 AM
#122
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Every time I see a Delta BLM pin I comment because that was the avowed purpose of the overt display..." to promote discussion". I say , "Oh, I see you have the BLM pin...how nice. .... I think you're a chump",. I figure if they can force their opinion on me, I can tell them what I think.
I also think an argument can be made that the BLM pin is a hostile work environment action. Since ALL the money for BLM goes to Democrats and progressive causes(via Act Blue)...that the pin is a political statement. That is not appropriate in the work place, and some might find it offensive or hostile.
Delta....stay outta effing politics!!!! You chump.
I also think an argument can be made that the BLM pin is a hostile work environment action. Since ALL the money for BLM goes to Democrats and progressive causes(via Act Blue)...that the pin is a political statement. That is not appropriate in the work place, and some might find it offensive or hostile.
Delta....stay outta effing politics!!!! You chump.
04-05-2021, 07:09 AM
#123
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Certainly they have screwed manning up. However from a standpoint of how the airline is viewed publically most travel sources have been very positive and from the perspective of managing actual finances the airline is very well positioned. The cancelations yesterday were in fact mostly driven by a very liberal employee covid vaccination policy. Admittedly they should have anticipated the result.
If you hired a employee and your pay, work rule and benefit package was at the very top of the industry and he stood out on a corner and shouted that the company sucked with a bull horn how would you deal with that? You praise in public and condemn in private was a basic rule I was taught. I will bet you money I have pushed Delta through available private sources far more than 95% of the pilots on the list over negative issues. It’s easy to be a keyboard cowboy and shout on a public forum anonymously, it’s harder to write up issues and attach your name to them. The later does get attention I can assure you from personal experience.
If you hired a employee and your pay, work rule and benefit package was at the very top of the industry and he stood out on a corner and shouted that the company sucked with a bull horn how would you deal with that? You praise in public and condemn in private was a basic rule I was taught. I will bet you money I have pushed Delta through available private sources far more than 95% of the pilots on the list over negative issues. It’s easy to be a keyboard cowboy and shout on a public forum anonymously, it’s harder to write up issues and attach your name to them. The later does get attention I can assure you from personal experience.
At least you admitted the pilot manning failure. That must have hurt you to type that out.
04-05-2021, 07:12 AM
#124
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
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Every time I see a Delta BLM pin I comment because that was the avowed purpose of the overt display..." to promote discussion". I say , "Oh, I see you have the BLM pin...how nice. .... I think you're a chump",. I figure if they can force their opinion on me, I can tell them what I think.
I also think an argument can be made that the BLM pin is a hostile work environment action. Since ALL the money for BLM goes to Democrats and progressive causes(via Act Blue)...that the pin is a political statement. That is not appropriate in the work place, and some might find it offensive or hostile.
Delta....stay outta effing politics!!!! You chump.
I also think an argument can be made that the BLM pin is a hostile work environment action. Since ALL the money for BLM goes to Democrats and progressive causes(via Act Blue)...that the pin is a political statement. That is not appropriate in the work place, and some might find it offensive or hostile.
Delta....stay outta effing politics!!!! You chump.
04-05-2021, 07:15 AM
#125
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,258
I would be interested in seeing how many pilots dropped trips due the Covid shot policy over the Easter week-end. As far as I know, we are the only carrier that lets you drop the a for pay for a Covid vaccine. (personally, I have been trying to jam 2 x 4 day trips together so my 1 trip drop will take out both trips)
...gotta know the rules to play the game...I jest. I jest...sort of.
My guess, if only 5% strategically got the shot over that weekend....the results we saw would ensue.
All guesses on my part but something that I would like factual data on.
...gotta know the rules to play the game...I jest. I jest...sort of.My guess, if only 5% strategically got the shot over that weekend....the results we saw would ensue.
All guesses on my part but something that I would like factual data on.
04-05-2021, 07:25 AM
#126
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I would be interested in seeing how many pilots dropped trips due the Covid shot policy over the Easter week-end. As far as I know, we are the only carrier that lets you drop the a for pay for a Covid vaccine. (personally, I have been trying to jam 2 x 4 day trips together so my 1 trip drop will take out both trips)...gotta know the rules to play the game...I jest. I jest...sort of.
My guess, if only 5% strategically got the shot over that weekend....the results we saw would ensue.
All guesses on my part but something that I would like factual data on.
...gotta know the rules to play the game...I jest. I jest...sort of.My guess, if only 5% strategically got the shot over that weekend....the results we saw would ensue.
All guesses on my part but something that I would like factual data on.
04-05-2021, 07:28 AM
#127
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,558
Every time I see a Delta BLM pin I comment because that was the avowed purpose of the overt display..." to promote discussion". I say , "Oh, I see you have the BLM pin...how nice. .... I think you're a chump",. I figure if they can force their opinion on me, I can tell them what I think.
I also think an argument can be made that the BLM pin is a hostile work environment action. Since ALL the money for BLM goes to Democrats and progressive causes(via Act Blue)...that the pin is a political statement. That is not appropriate in the work place, and some might find it offensive or hostile.
Delta....stay outta effing politics!!!! You chump.
I also think an argument can be made that the BLM pin is a hostile work environment action. Since ALL the money for BLM goes to Democrats and progressive causes(via Act Blue)...that the pin is a political statement. That is not appropriate in the work place, and some might find it offensive or hostile.
Delta....stay outta effing politics!!!! You chump.
04-05-2021, 07:31 AM
#128
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,258
But more importantly, do you find any merit in the logic?
And, while you are correct as of now, the closer I get to my retirement the greater the likely hood. So, I feel I can get away with "ignorant" for a bit and have "plausible deniability". At the end state the PK=100%.of me becoming more strident and using "Chump". A man's gotta know not only what battles to fall on his petard for, but also the timing of said event is important.
The closer I get to retirement, the more it irks me that one side has unfettered access to force their opinion on me but I have to be the mute......Call it an "old man thing"
04-05-2021, 07:36 AM
#130
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Immaterial to my point. You got any facts as to numbers of pilots that availed themselves of this? That is the real question for me, and that, was plainly evident. Sorry you had to get your glasses to read between the lines to take something out of context.
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