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Old 08-29-2022, 10:15 AM
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You are correct. The EU climate inspired shift away from coal several years ago increased reliance on Russian energy. It was the perfect setup for today's energy crisis. The Ukraine invasion exposed a strategic weakness in the EU climate plan, it didn't create the problem.
And alternative sources and fuels are the strategic fix, they just haven't come on line fast enough for this conflict. We should accelerate this. BTW offsets are BS, you can't designate the fast growing tree in my backyard as a Delta tree and then extort the new "owner" that it may need to come down to make room for the new firepit. The planet can only absorb so much carbon so fast, reduction is the key.
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:17 AM
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Yall see what's happening in Europe? Politicians followed Greta's advice now they have an energy crisis that will result in a bitterly cold winter for millions. Imagine your electricity bill going from $250 to $2500? My goodness

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Haven't heard from her since she hit 18, maybe moved on to boys? Europe is in a pickle. I wonder if there will be Jet A shortages this winter? I could see them going into some form of lockdown to conserve energy resources...

Brings me to another thought. The naval fuel supply in HNL is being emptied to repair the leaking tanks, the SPR is at an all time low and NATO won't have distillates in Europe. What could go wrong? The Chinese navy is now larger than that of the USA, there has never been a better time retake Taiwan.
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Old 08-29-2022, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
You are correct. The EU climate inspired shift away from coal several years ago increased reliance on Russian energy. It was the perfect setup for today's energy crisis. The Ukraine invasion exposed a strategic weakness in the EU climate plan, it didn't create the problem.
What screwed Europe was dismantling their nuclear infrastructure. IIRC, France at one point got 80% of its power from nuclear, Germany not quite that high but substantial. Saw an article the past few weeks where Germany has halted closing the last 3 nuclear plants.
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Old 08-29-2022, 02:43 PM
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Haven't heard from her since she hit 18, maybe moved on to boys? Europe is in a pickle. I wonder if there will be Jet A shortages this winter? I could see them going into some form of lockdown to conserve energy resources...

Brings me to another thought. The naval fuel supply in HNL is being emptied to repair the leaking tanks, the SPR is at an all time low and NATO won't have distillates in Europe. What could go wrong? The Chinese navy is now larger than that of the USA, there has never been a better time retake Taiwan.
Chinese navy being bigger than the US, only in raw ship numbers. Most of their ships are small. Their navy can’t hold a candle to ours. Their GDP per capita sucks. Population is shrinking. They may get desperate and attempt to take Taiwan but I don’t know how well that would go for them. I also don’t think they attract the best and brightest minds from around the world. I’m not an expert but I think the China fear is overblown.
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Old 08-29-2022, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
And alternative sources and fuels are the strategic fix, they just haven't come on line fast enough for this conflict. We should accelerate this. BTW offsets are BS, you can't designate the fast growing tree in my backyard as a Delta tree and then extort the new "owner" that it may need to come down to make room for the new firepit. The planet can only absorb so much carbon so fast, reduction is the key.
[China has entered the chat]

[Russia has entered the chat]

Roughly half the world's population, and produce a good portion of the world's stuff. They don't much care what Europe or the US think. By all means, wear a sweater in winter though.

Green energy(**) is the modern day version of the Xhosa Cattle Killing Cult(*). *Also started by a young woman who spoke dire prophecies about the future.

**(except nukes)
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Old 08-29-2022, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
And alternative sources and fuels are the strategic fix, they just haven't come on line fast enough for this conflict. We should accelerate this. BTW offsets are BS, you can't designate the fast growing tree in my backyard as a Delta tree and then extort the new "owner" that it may need to come down to make room for the new firepit. The planet can only absorb so much carbon so fast, reduction is the key.
The strategic fix? What fuel and alternatice sources are you talking about? Nuclear is the only viable "green energy" we have today and it would take decades to build the necessary amount to produce the necessary demand we have today not even taking into account the delusional EV demands (of which we dont even have the necessary minerals globally to accomplish) and thats assuming the political will was there to do it. The planet can only absorb so much carbon? This is based on many variables and numerous assumptions, of which there is significant debate and no real scientific proof. At this point its theretical with wild claims that have never panned out. Now we have opposing science based climate declarations being made because as with covid only one narrative is allowed to be pushed. And as we have seen with covid the "science" is often nothing more than propaganda packaged for an unsuspecting group of sheep. We are on a ball that is surrounded by a vaccum. Nothing is being added or destroyed, only recycled with things in a perpetual state of balance. Until there is significant scientific proof that would suggest it necessary to alter the direction of humanity any attepts to do so are driven by sociopathic control freaks.
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Old 08-29-2022, 05:21 PM
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The strategic fix? What fuel and alternatice sources are you talking about? Nuclear is the only viable "green energy" we have today and it would take decades to build the necessary amount to produce the necessary demand we have today not even taking into account the delusional EV demands (of which we dont even have the necessary minerals globally to accomplish) and thats assuming the political will was there to do it. The planet can only absorb so much carbon? This is based on many variables and numerous assumptions, of which there is significant debate and no real scientific proof. At this point its theretical with wild claims that have never panned out. Now we have opposing science based climate declarations being made because as with covid only one narrative is allowed to be pushed. And as we have seen with covid the "science" is often nothing more than propaganda packaged for an unsuspecting group of sheep. We are on a ball that is surrounded by a vaccum. Nothing is being added or destroyed, only recycled with things in a perpetual state of balance. Until there is significant scientific proof that would suggest it necessary to alter the direction of humanity any attepts to do so are driven by sociopathic control freaks.
In the last 200 years we have removed more carbon (and other minerals, gases and chemicals) from the crust of the planet and dispersed it into the atmosphere and over the surface, than has ever been done outside the catastrophic prehistorical impacts. We also have destroyed a large part of the carbon absorption capability. I'm sure that will fine.
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Old 08-29-2022, 06:02 PM
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Haven't heard from her since she hit 18, maybe moved on to boys? Europe is in a pickle. I wonder if there will be Jet A shortages this winter? I could see them going into some form of lockdown to conserve energy resources...

Brings me to another thought. The naval fuel supply in HNL is being emptied to repair the leaking tanks, the SPR is at an all time low and NATO won't have distillates in Europe. What could go wrong? The Chinese navy is now larger than that of the USA, there has never been a better time retake Taiwan.
China attempts to take Taiwan, USA will declare war and we’ll have WW3…and that my friends, is what you call the mother of black swans.
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Old 08-29-2022, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by gunfighter
you are correct. The eu climate inspired shift away from coal several years ago increased reliance on russian energy. It was the perfect setup for today's energy crisis. The ukraine invasion exposed a strategic weakness in the eu climate plan, it didn't create the problem.
exactamundo!!!
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Old 08-29-2022, 06:08 PM
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And alternative sources and fuels are the strategic fix, they just haven't come on line fast enough for this conflict. We should accelerate this.
Agreed, those are the fixes. Problem is, those alternatives will take decades to replace oil, natural gas and coal. Green Energy folks have lost their minds thinking it can happen with 10 years. Fossil Fuels are here to stay for the foreseeable future
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