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Old 11-25-2020, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
It's the same logic as when you have to use the commuter clause and get positive space travel... it does not count towards your duty day.
Since that was a softball, what are the pay ramifications if they don't get you there for sign in?
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Old 11-25-2020, 04:16 PM
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but I am pretty confident at least one ambulance chasing lawyer could make a case if anything goes sideways.
I doubt it. It is a company policy that has been approved by the FAA for years. The FAA already made up their mind on these matters when 117 was created. Sure it's not consistent and might not be logical, but have rest & duty rules ever been perfect? The alternative is to never give us positive space. Personally, I can live with the logical inconsistency.
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Old 11-25-2020, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
Not that it's any of your business but I voted yes and as a commuter for almost 20 years it had nothing to do with the PS it had to do with the UNA's. So question for you since you like them are you married to, dating or have some other relationship with an FA? I don't care if they get it. I do care when something my union negotiates gets watered down heavily. Great thing about the United States everyone has their own opinion and no one is ever right.
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Old 11-25-2020, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooter432
There have been rumors that the NC has been in talk very recently to bring some larger RJ's finally on property operated by DL pilots. Schnitzler had briefly mentioned addressing scope issues (minus details) in one of his latest communications. We have the rates. It would be interesting to see if guys would step up and fly them if they were on property.

Nah man, the CC crowd is so miffed by this LOA passing that they think they'll be able to sell scope to get things they want. Nevermind that they couldn't even come close to defeating a LOA that was so "detrimental" to them and their peers.
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Old 11-26-2020, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Nah man, the CC crowd is so miffed by this LOA passing that they think they'll be able to sell scope to get things they want. Nevermind that they couldn't even come close to defeating a LOA that was so "detrimental" to them and their peers.

CC crowd = Richards

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Old 11-26-2020, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SawF16
Christ, you are seriously about as pompous a jackass as I can imagine.

Edit: Sorry, I guess for you I should say Khrist.
The guy is clearly unhinged, so you might as well put him on block, like I did.

I get strong O6 vibes from him, but I could be wrong. Either way, he must have been real fun in a squadron...
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Old 11-26-2020, 07:31 AM
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Now that 20-04 has been ratified, what’s the math on GS’s/WS’s vs recalling UNA’s? Hopefully recovery is quick and it will be moot.
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Originally Posted by boog123
Now that 20-04 has been ratified, what’s the math on GS’s/WS’s vs recalling UNA’s? Hopefully recovery is quick and it will be moot.
One would think math is not necessary when the company is canceling 200+ flights a day due to pilot availability

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One would think math is not necessary when the company is canceling 200+ flights a day due to pilot availability

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Any other answers from someone who doesn’t take a one week view of the operation?
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Old 11-26-2020, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123
Any other answers from someone who doesn’t take a one week view of the operation?
Why yes...from a competing thread...

"What load factor are we running? Flights I've been on had plenty of seats below the 66%.

Maybe, the business decision is lose a little revenue over 5 days at Thanksgiving instead of paying wages for 1000 pilots to come back when not really needed for the intermediate future.?

Seems like I heard covid is spiking again. Cash preservation may trump picking up pennies with ticket prices being what they are"
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