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Old 06-21-2020, 10:48 AM
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New York Times, hot off the presses:


Maybe you should pay attention

Also, hope you have a great Fathers Day and get to spend that time with your boys. Time with the family is paramount.
NY Times.......Yeah...no bias there!!!
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So Peter Navarro's words that they're stockpiling for a future possible wave in the fall didn't happen because it's on a NY Times article? But nice Mike Tyson GIF.
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Originally Posted by popcopy
New York Times, hot off the presses:


Maybe you should pay attention

Also, hope you have a great Fathers Day and get to spend that time with your boys. Time with the family is paramount.
......In a piece published last Friday titled "As New York Reaches a Coronavirus Landmark, Parts of Red America Are Facing a Potential Disaster," New Yorker writer John Cassidy initially wrote that in Florida, "12,673 people were hospitalized, compared to the 8,553 a month ago, according to the COVID Tracking Project."

On Saturday, Berenson called out the error in what he described as "panic porn."

"It should come as no surprise that the most crucial and scariest fact in this New Yorker piece of panic porn is wrong: @johncassidy reports that 12,673 people 'are hospitalized' in Florida with #coronavirus, up 4,000 in a month. Nope..." Berenson began a Twitter thread. "12,673 HAVE BEEN hospitalized in Florida since hospitalizations began in March. The vast majority of those patients are home now. Florida has never had over ~2,000 people hospitalized with #Covid, 3.5% of its total hospital beds. Which presents a slightly different picture."

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The New Yorker on Sunday, the magazine eventually modified the article to read, "In Florida, 12,673 people have been hospitalized, compared with a cumulative total of 8,553 a month ago, according to the COVID Tracking Project."It also added a note to the bottom of the report: "A previous version of this piece incorrectly described Florida’s hospitalization count."
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Originally Posted by Phins2right
Because their data lags by 7 days. The ILInet and this CDC chart are generally reported and updated first.

The problem with you is that you listen to brain dead teleprompter readers. . .

. . . I live in FL and no one really gives a crap anymore. This thing is done here. Stick a fork in it.

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You be sure to let us know how it works out for you and Florida.

I am not an epidemiologist, but to me, it does not look like "This thing is done here."

(And these numbers are NOT 7-days old, they are updated daily)

edit: Forgot to post source... -> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

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Old 06-21-2020, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by KnotSoFast
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You be sure to let us know how it works out for you and Florida.

I am not an epidemiologist, but to me, it does not look like "This thing is done here."

(And these numbers are NOT 7-days old, they are updated daily)

edit: Forgot to post source... -> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

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and statistically 50% dont even know they have it. But with antibody study in North Carolina you’re looking at that number possibly being significantly larger. New cases are not the threat. Never were.

although I’ll admit there is a large percentage of the population that believe testing positive as certain death.
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......In a piece published last Friday titled "As New York Reaches a Coronavirus Landmark, Parts of Red America Are Facing a Potential Disaster," New Yorker writer John Cassidy initially wrote that in Florida, "12,673 people were hospitalized, compared to the 8,553 a month ago, according to the COVID Tracking Project."

On Saturday, Berenson called out the error in what he described as "panic porn."

"It should come as no surprise that the most crucial and scariest fact in this New Yorker piece of panic porn is wrong: @johncassidy reports that 12,673 people 'are hospitalized' in Florida with #coronavirus, up 4,000 in a month. Nope..." Berenson began a Twitter thread. "12,673 HAVE BEEN hospitalized in Florida since hospitalizations began in March. The vast majority of those patients are home now. Florida has never had over ~2,000 people hospitalized with #Covid, 3.5% of its total hospital beds. Which presents a slightly different picture."

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The New Yorker on Sunday, the magazine eventually modified the article to read, "In Florida, 12,673 people have been hospitalized, compared with a cumulative total of 8,553 a month ago, according to the COVID Tracking Project."It also added a note to the bottom of the report: "A previous version of this piece incorrectly described Florida’s hospitalization count."
you realize the New Yorker and The New York Times are not even close to the same thing.
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you realize the New Yorker and The New York Times are not even close to the same thing.
I know but I’m poking at the panic porn and “records hit” without context
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Originally Posted by KnotSoFast
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You be sure to let us know how it works out for you and Florida.

I am not an epidemiologist, but to me, it does not look like "This thing is done here."

(And these numbers are NOT 7-days old, they are updated daily)

edit: Forgot to post source... -> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

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At least for me, if your graph is gonna have any value other than fear porn, it needs either one or both of these metrics included: either hospitalizations and/or tests.
Otherwise, I just file it in my "biased media" canister. Do you have those numbers to provide a fuller picture? I ask you to do it because it seems like your agenda, with your slant, and until shown otherwise, I'll continue to believe what I believe.
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Old 06-21-2020, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
At least for me, if your graph is gonna have any value other than fear porn, it needs either one or both of these metrics included: either hospitalizations and/or tests.
Otherwise, I just file it in my "biased media" canister. Do you have those numbers to provide a fuller picture? I ask you to do it because it seems like your agenda, with your slant, and until shown otherwise, I'll continue to believe what I believe.
See: hospitalizations and the consistent number of people tested. Hospitalizations trail diagnosed by at least a week and deaths trail hospitalizations by a week or two.

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/florida-coronavirus-cases-and-deaths-live-updates/67-d236a427-6262-41b5-b70d-747d6a14e428
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Here's the preliminary results from Phase One of the Indiana statewide serosurvey:

https://fsph.iupui.edu/doc/prelimina...ing-may-13.pdf

Also I don't do much on The Twitter, but this is a pretty interesting thread with regards to hospital resources:

https://twitter.com/boriquagato/stat...rPui4VhjpnBZbE

Increased spread from reopening should not be a surprise to anybody. Increased positives, given the rapid increase in testing capacity and availability the last three months, shouldn't be a surprise to anybody either.

There's a LOT of really mild disease, with no or very minor symptoms, being captured now that wasn't captured 2-3 months ago. Rising percentages of positive tests clearly indicates an issue with spread needing mitigation, and some locations are seeing that right now, but its kinda like all the attention given to college athletes who have tested positive - they have ZERO symptoms and never would have been tested if they weren't athletes. That disease has been captured, and its spread hopefully mitigated (if asymptomatic carriers are actually shedding enough virus to make others sick, the medical/scientific community isn't sure about that yet), which otherwise woudn't have been due to mass testing.

We can't do much about the pearl clutchers of the world that would prefer we all stay locked in our homes until this burns out (even though that was NEVER the objective)...but there's little downside to wearing a mask INDOORS IN PUBLIC other than the aggravation so set a good example and let's get folks traveling again.

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