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Old 06-21-2020, 07:10 AM
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So american isn’t limited to 60%... I will be very curious to see how Q2 revenue looks across the airlines and especially if they could break out June.
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We're already there pop, pay attention.

Jaww - I think the Hotels are still throttled on capacity aren't they? Also airlines, as we know, are still not anywhere near a half normal capacity. Hopefully the demand forces an increase. Now add in Orange county (FL) just went full crazy with mask wear mandatory - yet they are still mandating the 6 ft thing as well. I'm confused, I thought if you couldn't maintain 6 ft then it was mask on? The Orange county commish says no, regardless of 6 ft rule, masks for everyone, everywhere in public. Did the same thing in TPA. People are gonna drop like rocks here in FL wearing those things in July. We've lost the bubble.

Happy Father's Day everyone. Time to go enjoy some fishing time with the boys.
My big complaint is FL getting all this press for the rise in COVID cases. No real mentioning of increased testing and an overall decrease in severity and lethality. It simply is not the killer we thought it was but people are so entrenched and indoctrinated into their camps we will go about the status quo simply because it’s polite.
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So american isn’t limited to 60%... I will be very curious to see how Q2 revenue looks across the airlines and especially if they could break out June.
Our cash burn went from 40 to 30 million a day between May and June. Would the assumption be made that this was because we had more flights? Pretty sure all the PLOAs were out prior. Adding 1000 flights in July and depending on ticket prices anyone wanna take a stab at what our cash burn will be come August?
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Old 06-21-2020, 08:18 AM
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Our cash burn went from 40 to 30 million a day between May and June. Would the assumption be made that this was because we had more flights? Pretty sure all the PLOAs were out prior. Adding 1000 flights in July and depending on ticket prices anyone wanna take a stab at what our cash burn will be come August?
idk. We added flights but I’m looking at a buddy’s 350 July schedule with 3 trips and they just 23k the first two.
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My big complaint is FL getting all this press for the rise in COVID cases. No real mentioning of increased testing and an overall decrease in severity and lethality. It simply is not the killer we thought it was but people are so entrenched and indoctrinated into their camps we will go about the status quo simply because it’s polite.
It's SETTLED science Jaww! You're either with us, or you're wrong!

Man, based on how wacky people have gotten over this, I feel the need to put [/sarcasm], so people get that I'm joking.
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Old 06-21-2020, 08:27 AM
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So american isn’t limited to 60%... I will be very curious to see how Q2 revenue looks across the airlines and especially if they could break out June.

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This !

I personally don't care what AA is doing. Or SWA or UAL for that matter. Yet.

We are in a REVENUE CRISIS. Our strategy, for now, is try to keep our nose above water until meaningful passenger revenue returns. The third week of July (Q2 results) will be telling. We will ALL lose almost unfathomable amounts of cash. Let's see who loses the least. Then we can evaluate whose strategy needs to be revised.

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Old 06-21-2020, 08:54 AM
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...well the ground air is awful on a 321. Has been since day 1. Same hose on 320, fine. 321? 80F+
We could have had, for years now, industry dominating ground air, in extreme comfort, at every gate in the system, for every plane in the fleet, for a tiny percentage of the 11 figure burnbacks.

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Old 06-21-2020, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Phins2right
We're already there pop, pay attention.
New York Times, hot off the presses:


Maybe you should pay attention

Also, hope you have a great Fathers Day and get to spend that time with your boys. Time with the family is paramount.
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idk. We added flights but I’m looking at a buddy’s 350 July schedule with 3 trips and they just 23k the first two.

If the trips in question touched China then there were a lot of changes to the schedule. Probably why the 23k. Intl stuff is still changing daily so it’s the Wild West, but domestically it looks like Delta will about 60-65% of 2019 flights for August (~40% ASMs with the caps in place).
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Cases are not necessarily a good indicator, as testing ramps up. Hospitalizations, the Cuomo-championed “ventilators”, and deaths are a much more valid gauge. I haven’t looked in a week, but the bell curve is pretty well complete in both GA and NY. And NY never got close to using the 30,000 ventilators Cuomo ranted about.

Of course, they all lag, and it can certainly ramp back up, but the most important point is this:

The shutdown was a gross, gross overreaction. With continued social distancing, masks, hygiene, and smart reopening (vulnerable stay home), things can and should safely get back toward normal. It will never be zero.
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