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Old 05-29-2020, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
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There are plenty of safe investments with returns above 3%. Rather than pay off our mortgage, we're investing an equivalent amount in real estate with non recourse financing. The cash on cash returns more than cover the mortgage, plus we are building equity from principle reduction and possibly appreciation over the long term holding period. I'm a fan of Dave Ramsey right up through baby step 6, where he says to pay off the house.

We paid off our house about a year ago. I thought long and hard about it, and my financial advisor told me not to do it. I did it anyway, and honestly was having second thoughts. Then coronavirus hit and I was worried about Delta going under. Having no mortgage payment to make sure helped me sleep at night. Was it a smart financial decision? Probably not. But it helps my peace of mind.
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Old 05-29-2020, 10:58 AM
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Old 05-29-2020, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Xray678
We paid off our house about a year ago. I thought long and hard about it, and my financial advisor told me not to do it. I did it anyway, and honestly was having second thoughts. Then coronavirus hit and I was worried about Delta going under. Having no mortgage payment to make sure helped me sleep at night. Was it a smart financial decision? Probably not. But it helps my peace of mind.
A financial advisor wants to invest your money? Shocking! And of course your advisor's butt isn't going to be stuck paying your mortgage if you lose your job. That peace of mind is worth more than the potential gains of investing instead, plus if you now invest your old house payment on top of what you were already doing you will be quite set financially.
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Old 05-29-2020, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
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There are plenty of safe investments with returns above 3%. Rather than pay off our mortgage, we're investing an equivalent amount in real estate with non recourse financing. The cash on cash returns more than cover the mortgage, plus we are building equity from principle reduction and possibly appreciation over the long term holding period. I'm a fan of Dave Ramsey right up through baby step 6, where he says to pay off the house.
I've done a bit of both, and in general, I agree with you. I always enjoy your posts when you talk about your RE investing. I have a few RE investments that are bringing a nice little side income, but I did pay off the townhome I live in. Car has been paid off for 12 years and all my toys have been paid for with cash. Sure I could have taken that cash and bought more RE, but for me it's about balance and peace of mind. If I were to get furloughed, I could survive just fine on just my part-time Guard pay check (w/o taking orders) and my real estate income...mainly because I don't have a mortgage or other consumer debt. I know that my money could have been better placed elsewhere, but for me, it's worth the tradeoff. That said, I'm still socking away plenty of cash for future RE opportunities. I expect there to be some deals in the coming years...market it stupid high in my area right now.
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Avoid divorce.

The loss of economic momentum and dilution of future income streams is disasterous.

I started all over at 42 with only my paycheck and a rack in the attic of a crash pad shared with 2 other deltoids.

Unless you are a guy who does not have and does not expect to ever have any income. Or assets. In that case do it as often as you please. 😁
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Old 05-29-2020, 12:19 PM
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If he is like my close friend, also an attorney, he absolutely thrives on this, is Type A, and sadistically loves his work. He is never off largely by choice, if you cornered him and asked him.
Sat next to a guy at a charity dinner for the local elementary school, about 45 years old. He was talking about his boat in SAN, his condo in Vail, told me he was a lawyer, I asked him if he liked his job. He told me he hated every minute of it.
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Originally Posted by BobZ
Avoid divorce.

The loss of economic momentum and dilution of future income streams is disasterous.

I started all over at 42 with only my paycheck and a rack in the attic of a crash pad shared with 2 other deltoids.

Unless you are a guy who does not have and does not expect to ever have any income. Or assets. In that case do it as often as you please. 😁
The best way to do this is to avoid marriage in general . I'm squarely in the furlough zone, but sleep very well at night knowing I don't have to provide for a family.
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Old 05-29-2020, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
The best way to do this is to avoid marriage in general . I'm squarely in the furlough zone, but sleep very well at night knowing I don't have to provide for a family.
Hey now....ya gotta check the box.

Just not 5 times. 😄
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
The best way to do this is to avoid marriage in general . I'm squarely in the furlough zone, but sleep very well at night knowing I don't have to provide for a family.
Here you go... The Predatory Female
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Here you go... The Predatory Female
Haha, that stuff is a little bit too red pill/incel even for me!!

Live within your means, no consumer debt, don't get divorced/married, and hope you have good timing and get on at the front of a hiring wave during a good time in the airline industry. Easy!
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