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Old 08-19-2020, 07:08 PM
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If I have a trip NOOP does it matter if I white slip or put in for a recovery trip? I had a WS request in that I got.
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Originally Posted by ERflyer
If I have a trip NOOP does it matter if I white slip or put in for a recovery trip? I had a WS request in that I got.
It does only in that you forfeit the original change (need two more strikes now for double recovery) and you forfeit pay protection for original trip (if it was less then it’s no biggies).

You really should have picked it up via a recovery slip but in reality it probably won’t matter.
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Old 08-20-2020, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
It does only in that you forfeit the original change (need two more strikes now for double recovery) and you forfeit pay protection for original trip (if it was less then it’s no biggies).

You really should have picked it up via a recovery slip but in reality it probably won’t matter.
I think he only loses the guarantee if he swaps his 23K recovery trip for something else.

If they NOOP’d his trip and didn’t get 23k assigned, then he keeps the original guarantee and he can then WS/GS as he sees fit.
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
I think he only loses the guarantee if he swaps his 23K recovery trip for something else.

If they NOOP’d his trip and didn’t get 23k assigned, then he keeps the original guarantee and he can then WS/GS as he sees fit.
Are you basically saying he got in before the buzzer or it noop’d and they said no recovery. The 23K lags a few potatoes behind the noop, it was definitely coming (based on the usual process of today’s schedules in my experiences). And because a recovery slip is higher in the pecking order than a WS, it makes sense to use it as it affords you protections and gets you the trip you want first.
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Originally Posted by Jaww
Are you basically saying he got in before the buzzer or it noop’d and they said no recovery. The 23K lags a few potatoes behind the noop, it was definitely coming (based on the usual process of today’s schedules in my experiences). And because a recovery slip is higher in the pecking order than a WS, it makes sense to use it as it affords you protections and gets you the trip you want first.
Im saying if the system let him pick up a WS, then he must not have had 23K recovery obligation. Didn’t think the system would allow a WS if he was showing on the recovery obligation roster.

Conversely, I know when my trips were covered with legs cancelled and I knew it was going to get NOOP’d, I was not able to submit recovery slip until I had actually been slapped with 23K.
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Im saying if the system let him pick up a WS, then he must not have had 23K recovery obligation. Didn’t think the system would allow a WS if he was showing on the recovery obligation roster.

Conversely, I know when my trips were covered with legs cancelled and I knew it was going to get NOOP’d, I was not able to submit recovery slip until I had actually been slapped with 23K.
I agree on your second part 100%. I see what you are saying about the first part and that makes sense too.
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Im saying if the system let him pick up a WS, then he must not have had 23K recovery obligation. Didn’t think the system would allow a WS if he was showing on the recovery obligation roster.

Conversely, I know when my trips were covered with legs cancelled and I knew it was going to get NOOP’d, I was not able to submit recovery slip until I had actually been slapped with 23K.
Thanks for the discussion. The NOOP went 23K and I P/D the WS trip. It was just an old WS request that hit that I forgot I had in.
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Old 08-21-2020, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Im saying if the system let him pick up a WS, then he must not have had 23K recovery obligation. Didn’t think the system would allow a WS if he was showing on the recovery obligation roster.

Conversely, I know when my trips were covered with legs cancelled and I knew it was going to get NOOP’d, I was not able to submit recovery slip until I had actually been slapped with 23K.
Yep. Rather than NOOP they (CrewSkd) have been getting creative with the deadheads to keep you on a rotation with cancelled legs or legs that don't match due to marketing changes. Usually resulting in domicile layovers. See 23k.1.f
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Question for the masses:

I’m on reserve for August. Got a line for Sept. 3 day trip Sept 1-3 NOOP then 23K already. There’s a 3 day starting August 30 and pays 7:15 for Aug and 8:30 for Sept.

Can I put in a recovery slip for that? The original trip was for 16:10, so 8:30 meets the 50%. If I can get it via recovery slip, how is the 7:15 for August handled being I’m on reserve?

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Old 08-25-2020, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 53x11
Question for the masses:

I’m on reserve for August. Got a line for Sept. 3 day trip Sept 1-3 NOOP then 23K already. There’s a 3 day starting August 30 and pays 7:15 for Aug and 8:30 for Sept.

Can I put in a recovery slip for that? The original trip was for 16:10, so 8:30 meets the 50%. If I can get it via recovery slip, how is the 7:15 for August handled being I’m on reserve?

Thanks in advance!
You can’t recovery slip while on RES.
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