23K/Recovery Questions Thread
08-04-2020, 03:14 PM
#481
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the trip is in 3 weeks. I haven’t contacted CS or anything. Trying to ammo up to see if I have a case.
08-04-2020, 05:06 PM
#482
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If my rotation started with DH to DTW and that leg was cancelled which then caused the whole trip to NOOP. Would that be a legit 23k recovery scenario? It shows me as having recovery but it seems like having to commute to LGA when I was just going to deviate straight to DTW as some BS! Anyway...TIA.
08-04-2020, 06:04 PM
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08-05-2020, 03:33 AM
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08-05-2020, 02:06 PM
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Question for the hive mind...
I've got a 4-day rotation removed with a 23k obligation on the 8th. Can I put a recovery slip in for a similar trip that starts on the 7th? The trip would actually work better for me than what a surprise trip might be. How does one go about that? Just submit a normal recovery slip that specifies the specific date and rotation? What are the benefits/pitfalls of such a move?
08-05-2020, 02:17 PM
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I've got a 4-day rotation removed with a 23k obligation on the 8th. Can I put a recovery slip in for a similar trip that starts on the 7th? The trip would actually work better for me than what a surprise trip might be. How does one go about that? Just submit a normal recovery slip that specifies the specific date and rotation? What are the benefits/pitfalls of such a move?
08-05-2020, 03:10 PM
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Read 23j of contract. You can pick up a trip anywhere in month to replace 23k trip as long as it's value is worth at least 50 percent of original trip. That means it's possible to replace a 4 day with a 2 day and still get paid for the 4 day. Learn your contract. It will save you time and make you money.
08-05-2020, 04:09 PM
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I read that part and that was basically what I gleaned from it as well. I just wasn't sure if in this scenario I would still have an obligation after termination of the 23k trip since the footprint of my original rotation would still have one day remaining. The trip I'm looking at for the recovery slip actually pays more than the NOOPd trip, which is fine by me. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't exposing myself to additional liability or leaving money on the table.
You can swap out of a 23k trip. You don't even need to use 23J to do what you're doing.
08-05-2020, 05:12 PM
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No extra liability. I'd recommend picking up a 2 day worth less via 23J. That will eliminate your 23k obligation. You can then pick up another 2 day and get 6 days pay for only 4 days work. Only problem is 2 day has to pay 50 percent of original trip. If original trip was worth more than 21:00, can cause you a problem. My 3 highest credit months of my career were Apr, May, and Jun. As a commuter, I did it by manipulating 23k. I will say scheduling has changed their ways a little bit so it's harder to manipulate now.
You can swap out of a 23k trip. You don't even need to use 23J to do what you're doing.
You can swap out of a 23k trip. You don't even need to use 23J to do what you're doing.
08-05-2020, 10:20 PM
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Read 23j of contract. You can pick up a trip anywhere in month to replace 23k trip as long as it's value is worth at least 50 percent of original trip. That means it's possible to replace a 4 day with a 2 day and still get paid for the 4 day. Learn your contract. It will save you time and make you money.
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