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Old 04-11-2020, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GliderCFI
On another note, if one were to YS a 2 day recovery through PCS to replace a 3 day, is it legal/contractual/possible to use 2 PB days to wipe that off?
YS is for RES....RES don’t have have 23K obligation.
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Old 04-11-2020, 06:27 PM
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Does anyone know what the Daily Trip Coverage codes mean? I know the normal ones like pot swap, etc. but I'm not seeing what these mean: PN (No Op?), PSB, N, PW. Does anyone know what these mean? I'm trying to see how much recovery flying is actually being assigned. Thanks.
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Old 04-11-2020, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by smellslikejeta
Does anyone know what the Daily Trip Coverage codes mean? I know the normal ones like pot swap, etc. but I'm not seeing what these mean: PN (No Op?), PSB, N, PW. Does anyone know what these mean? I'm trying to see how much recovery flying is actually being assigned. Thanks.
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Old 04-11-2020, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GliderCFI
So if the recovery trip has a deadhead, that is converted to operating the leg instead of deadheading, prior to sign in...(about to be the second time they've done this one to me)...I understand it's a double 23k that can be shot down. But if I fly and grieve, what's the pay look like?
Should get paid double pay no credit for the trip you fly and single pay/single credit for the noop'd trip. Equivalent to green-slipping over a trip buy.
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Old 04-11-2020, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by smellslikejeta
Does anyone know what the Daily Trip Coverage codes mean? I know the normal ones like pot swap, etc. but I'm not seeing what these mean: PN (No Op?), PSB, N, PW. Does anyone know what these mean? I'm trying to see how much recovery flying is actually being assigned. Thanks.
The “P” part is PCS, so PW is WS awarded via PCS.

“N” is a manually awarded recovery assignment.

“PN” is PCS Awarded recovery slip
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Old 04-12-2020, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by smellslikejeta
Does anyone know what the Daily Trip Coverage codes mean? I know the normal ones like pot swap, etc. but I'm not seeing what these mean: PN (No Op?), PSB, N, PW. Does anyone know what these mean? I'm trying to see how much recovery flying is actually being assigned. Thanks.
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The “P” part is PCS, so PW is WS awarded via PCS.

“N” is a manually awarded recovery assignment.

“PN” is PCS Awarded recovery slip
PSB is Pilot-to-pilot Swap Board
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Old 04-13-2020, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Call the union scheduling committee. There is a disagreement between us and the company whether it’s a double 23k. They will look at your rotation and advise you what to do. My understanding it’s a fly now grieve later.
Then they will drag it out for months and never pay you..Saying it's not a violation. Pilot's I know have called scheduling when double 23K has been attempted..Scheduling agrees and takes it off their schedule. They are just trying to cover the trips in the cheapest way possible whether it's legal or not. It's the guys who do not challenge them that have to fly it.
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Old 04-13-2020, 01:55 PM
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Then they will drag it out for months and never pay you..Saying it's not a violation. Pilot's I know have called scheduling when double 23K has been attempted..Scheduling agrees and takes it off their schedule. They are just trying to cover the trips in the cheapest way possible whether it's legal or not. It's the guys who do not challenge them that have to fly it.
I have poured over the PWA the last 2 days. Where are changes to rotations after PBS award is complete addressed? I think we all have had rotations changed in some form or another after the trips were awarded. Is this officially the first 23k “change?”
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:48 PM
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We need to have scheduling transparency. At my previous airline, any schedule change was denoted by a letter at the end of your rotation. And each one could be looked up. Rotation ####F = change number 6 and you could look up A through E, too. It’s insane that the only way to log schedule changes is to obsessively watch your schedule and take screenshots.
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We need to have scheduling transparency. At my previous airline, any schedule change was denoted by a letter at the end of your rotation. And each one could be looked up. Rotation ####F = change number 6 and you could look up A through E, too. It’s insane that the only way to log schedule changes is to obsessively watch your schedule and take screenshots.
That's an exceptional idea. Funny thing is, it would be as beneficial for the company as it would be the pilots, if not more. That's why you'll likely never see it here....
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