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04-01-2020, 03:08 PM

#221

illini90

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish

Read 23.J.

filler

That still didn't answer my question. That talks about picking up a trip prior to signin. I'm talking about a 4-day 23K NOOP. Six hours after the original signing, I don't get a trip assigned. SO I'm free and clear. Can I pick up a WS or GS and get paid for the original trip, and the one I just picked up? Or am I one ever going to get paid for one of them?

04-01-2020, 03:47 PM

#222

Dorn

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So if you have a NOOP one question I’m not seeing being asked is am I obligated to answer my phone? It seems like the process goes from NOOP to 23k. So if I see 23k on MiCrew then I get a call at what point am I obligated to answer that? I would say yes I’m obligated if I’m in the original rotation sign In time + 6 hours. But what about earlier that day or the day prior to my original sign in?
Basically when MUST I answer my phone?

04-01-2020, 04:06 PM

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hockeypilot44

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Originally Posted by illini90

I couldn't find it in the contract. I'm sure it must be there, though. Did you try to pick up the trip after you were released from your 23K obligation? That's what I'm wondering about. Not so much picking anything up before the original signin.

Picked up trip later in month to replace my 23k obligation. Do it via recovery slip under pcs. Read 23j or contract.

04-01-2020, 04:10 PM

#224

illini90

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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44

Picked up trip later in month to replace my 23k obligation. Do it via recovery slip under pcs. Read 23j or contract.

OK...I'm going to try again. I am not trying to fulfill my recovery obligation. Six hours went by...it's fulfilled. Can I pick up a WS/GS and make extra money on top of my original trip?

04-01-2020, 04:21 PM

#225

captkdobbs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorn

I have a similar question. Let's say I have been notified of my NOOP and my 23k obligation several days prior to the rotation start time. Am I REQUIRED to schedule check or answer my phone before my original trip sign-in time?

23K.1.b.1. says "promptly available" from original report time yada yada, but says nothing about between notification and original report time.

04-01-2020, 04:22 PM

#226

Jaww

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Quote:

Originally Posted by illini90

OK...I'm going to try again. I am not trying to fulfill my recovery obligation. Six hours went by...it's fulfilled. Can I pick up a WS/GS and make extra money on top of my original trip?

yes
filler

04-01-2020, 04:51 PM

#227

fishforfun

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Originally Posted by Jaww

yes
filler

Even if it’s within the footprint of the original trip?

04-01-2020, 04:54 PM

#228

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gopher3

sorry if a repetitive question but when I log into Icrew and go to check my April schedule I receive an Icrew pop up saying my 4 day Rotation on April 20 has been dropped. Does this mean it has been cancelled and no 23k recovery?

That pop up is just for you to acknowldge the NOOP. At the bottom of your monthly schedule down by where it shows your max pick up, you might have a remark there that says "23K w/Recovery".

Then you can take a look at iCrew > Schedules > Current Schedule > Ok (at bottom) > Display Reserve Call Status Information. If it shows you with a 6 hour start/end time, then you have been assigned the 23K 6 hour window.