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Old 03-26-2020, 06:01 AM
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To say this doesn’t give me such joy to watch every delta guy eat some warm humble pie would be a lie. Mmmm mmm that looks so delicious I tell ya! Eat up boys!
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To say this doesn’t give me such joy to watch every delta guy eat some warm humble pie would be a lie. Mmmm mmm that looks so delicious I tell ya! Eat up boys!
Enjoy your life dude. Gonna be a long one with that attitude.
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Originally Posted by Deltasucks
To say this doesn’t give me such joy to watch every delta guy eat some warm humble pie would be a lie. Mmmm mmm that looks so delicious I tell ya! Eat up boys!

I’m not ruling out a cog test bust, but the smart money is on the HR interview. Stay safe out there.
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Old 03-26-2020, 06:06 AM
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Or maybe peeing in the OC3 parking lot after being told no? Dang those closed circuit cameras.
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Old 03-26-2020, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
For a little context. Back in 2001 Delta voted in a new contract. As we march inexorably towards bankruptcy we continued to get yearly pay raises even though the company was in dire straights. (UAL had been offered a contract of Delta plus 1 $ which they turned down then BAM1 911 hit....timining is a *****).
Minor point but UAL got their big contract just before we did. It was AA that was offered DL+$1 and turned it down and they have been playing catch-up for the last 15+ years.
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Old 03-26-2020, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
For a little context. Back in 2001 Delta voted in a new contract. As we march inexorably towards bankruptcy we continued to get yearly pay raises even though the company was in dire straights. (UAL had been offered a contract of Delta plus 1 $ which they turned down then BAM1 911 hit....timining is a *****). Anyway 3 or so years later the pilots took a 16-18% voluntary pay cut to stave off bankruptcy. That "voluntary pay cut was in essence the pay bump we had been getting that other employees or other pilot groups weren't getting.

(Story is in essence correct , numbers may be slightly off).....also adds a little perspective to don't lower the bar prior to bankruptcy because then you'll be starting from a lower number. I agrree with that but, (in our case) that higher number was a little "skewed" and was the result of good timing

When bailouts came, the same ire was prevalent from tax payers to all the other employee groups at Delta.
It was a 32% pay cut in exchange for a worthless BK protection letter saying that we had already given our fair share. That letter wasn’t worth the paper it was written on and they came for an additional 19% in BK but settled for 14.5% and lead to the infamous line by EB about keeping him up at night thinking it’s not enough.
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Deltasucks
To say this doesn’t give me such joy to watch every delta guy eat some warm humble pie would be a lie. Mmmm mmm that looks so delicious I tell ya! Eat up boys!


So an opposing union at a competing carrier asks for one analyst to create this document and you take it as gospel? I see this as more of a power move to attempt to convince AA management they aren’t as bad off as the majority of analysts believe. It’s posturing on APA’s part, not so much a shot at Delta.
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https://seekingalpha.com/article/433...content=link-0
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Originally Posted by Deltasucks
To say this doesn’t give me such joy to watch every delta guy eat some warm humble pie would be a lie. Mmmm mmm that looks so delicious I tell ya! Eat up boys!
Nice first post, trollboy.
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Originally Posted by GucciBoy
I’m not ruling out a cog test bust, but the smart money is on the HR interview. Stay safe out there.
I'd put the over under on never getting an interview in the first place, and possibly a situation so obvious an app wasn't even filled out. Sour grapes and hubris to the max, but I'm ok with it at this point. If it brings the person some comfort in these challenging times fine whatever.

Sometimes its worth saying "you're on guard!" and other times (actually most of the time) its best to turn the volume down a little and just let the meows and whatnots die down on their own.
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