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Old 03-17-2020, 02:15 PM
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I do like seeing the FA’s and passengers with the masks under their chins. Highly effective
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How are the new redesigned FA uniforms coming along? I haven’t heard much about the incognito penguin attire lately. I guess the stealth FAs are no longer a problem if we have to evacuate. And dwell time, how’s that metric?
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Old 03-17-2020, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by OverspeedCowboy
Global Level 3 Health Advisory issued by the Dept of State. It appears as if a mandatory 14-day quarantine for all international travelers may become inevitable.

source: STEP notification email service, text below:

"Global Level 3 Health Advisory - Reconsider Travel

The Department of State advises U.S. citizens to reconsider travel abroad due to the global impact of COVID-19. Many areas throughout the world are now experiencing COVID-19 outbreaks and taking action that may limit traveler mobility, including quarantines and border restrictions.Even countries, jurisdictions, or areas where cases have not been reported may restrict travel without notice.

For the latest information regarding COVID-19, please visit the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) website.

You are encouraged to visit travel.state.gov to view individual Travel Advisories for the most urgent threats to safety and security.Please also visit the website of the relevant U.S. embassy or consulate to see information on entry restrictions, foreign quarantine policies, and urgent health information provided by local governments.

Travelers are urged to enroll in the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP) to receive Alerts and make it easier to locate you in an emergency.The Department uses these Alerts to convey information about terrorist threats, security incidents, planned demonstrations, natural disasters, etc.In an emergency, please contact the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate or call the following numbers: 1(888) 407-4747 (toll-free in the United States and Canada) or 1 (202) 501-4444 from other countries or jurisdictions.

If you decide to travel abroad:

Review and follow the CDC's guidelines for the prevention of coronavirus.
Check with your airlines or cruise lines regarding any updated information about your travel plans and/or restrictions.
Visit travel.state.gov to view individual Travel Advisories for the most urgent threats to safety and security.
Visit our Embassy webpages on COVID-19 for information on conditions in each country or jurisdiction.
Visit the Department of Homeland Security's website on the latest travel restrictions to the U.S. "


EDITED: I'll leave this up as the email is real, however travel.state.gov doesn't match the information in their STEP email, so something here is out of "step." Regardless, it is a legitimate risk and logical step prior to shutting down domestic travel.
You are correct about the disconnect. A Level 3 Travel advisory from the State Department isn't the same as a Warning Level 3 from the CDC. State Dept 4 = CDC 3 and State Dept 3 = CDC 2 in most cases.
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Old 03-17-2020, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Falcon20
I do like seeing the FA’s and passengers with the masks under their chins. Highly effective
That, and people who are using their phones/tablets and even eating while wearing gloves...
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
You are correct about the disconnect. A Level 3 Travel advisory from the State Department isn't the same as a Warning Level 3 from the CDC. State Dept 4 = CDC 3 and State Dept 3 = CDC 2 in most cases.
lol

catch-22 or Dr strangeglove?
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Old 03-17-2020, 08:14 PM
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This thing is getting right out of hand. Give it another week and we won't be operating pax service. At some point, the risk outweighs the mission. We're almost there now. Deadheading a crew across the country to fly a jet with 10 people on it? Typical Delta, nobody willing to make the tough call, just let it ride till the wheels come off.

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Old 03-17-2020, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
This thing is getting right out of hand. Give it another week and we won't be operating pax service. At some point, the risk outweighs the mission. We're almost there now. Deadheading a crew across the country to fly a jet with 10 people on it? Typical Delta, nobody willing to make the tough call, just let it ride till the wheels come off.
My theory is much, much, worse.

Following September 11th the airlines were sued. US district judge Alvin Hellerstein ruled that the hijacking of commercial jets was the kind of "foreseeable risk" that the airline industry should have guarded against.

edit - actually - I'm already late


https://www.washingtonpost.com/trans...irus-outbreak/
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Old 03-17-2020, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
My theory is much, much, worse.

Following September 11th the airlines were sued. US district judge Alvin Hellerstein ruled that the hijacking of commercial jets was the kind of "foreseeable risk" that the airline industry should have guarded against.
Which carriers ignored the risk and flew China to Milan?
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Old 03-18-2020, 02:57 AM
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How are the new redesigned FA uniforms coming along? I haven’t heard much about the incognito penguin attire lately. I guess the stealth FAs are no longer a problem if we have to evacuate. And dwell time, how’s that metric?
The are much easier to identify on an empty aircraft.
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Old 03-18-2020, 04:54 AM
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Saudi's just did a shock and awe today, forced oil to 25 a barrel. Doesn't help now, but looking forward it will.
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