Ar Pilot

Isn't seat lock from AE award date, not conversion date?

waldo135

Yes. Filler

FangsF15

Exactly. So if they put those positions on this AE, the seat locks would expire in Nov 2021. By waiting 2-3 months, they will expire in Jan/Feb 2022 (or later...). If they can’t train them quite yet anyway, why award them now?

By waiting, they get an extra couple of months use of them- at least.

notEnuf

All true and exactly what I'd expect. That's not what was put out though, so again the information is in error and unreliable. Nothing new but it again proves the point that until it's in print on an AE it means nothing, and then it can be cancelled or rescinded as we saw with the 88. The APC speculation and the "I know something/somebody you don't know" credibility gambling game is always fun to play though. Carry on wayward sons.

FangsF15

I think the point is that the 777 and 330 positions rumored are, in fact, coming, but were off just a bit in timing (350 happened, but not in the numbers rumored. Yet.) BS said in several places in the last week they are coming and even opined about new hires to the 330 and -400 in years to come, but... As the internal process worked between/within Network and CS, they realized they didn’t actually have the training throughout to make it happen on this AE.

So what would we rather have? A black hole from mgmt, or some openness with the understanding that no plan survives first contact with the enemy, and it can/will flex.

Personally, I’m grateful for the much more open comms channels of late. I just also know things can and do change, so don’t buy a boat based on rumor alone. Oh, and I can’t speak for 5+ years ago, but the cancelled 88 awards are the first I’ve seen - a “one off” if you will. Others can chime in for before that, but I would guess that mergers and furloughs are not representative of the current or near future.

Trip7

Fantastic post. Well Said

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sailingfun

It’s weird that we would consider canceling positions in order to fly more block hours a bad thing. I guess we could have retired the MD88’s on schedule instead of using them to cover for the late Airbus deliveries and reduced pilot jobs overall. Probably could substantially reduce the hiring this winter.

FangsF15

Not arguing against that point (or that picking up WN & AA “-Max” slack was prudent), simply stating the cited cancelled 88 displacements are very atypical & not likely a trend going forward.

TANSTAAFL

Maybe about time they consider expanding their team beyond the local gene pool for instructors and offer incentives for potential instructor talent from outside ATL to swell the ranks.

sidestep

For the life of me I don’t understand why everyone is so up in arms about incorrect ‘top men’ info.. Info that is essentially meant to be rumor fodder. If you listen to BS’s podcast he essentially echos trip7’s info - just for the Jan/feb AE. The 10 angry FB posters need to take a deep breath and relax.