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Old 11-02-2019, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by StartngOvr
Even if they backfill every 320A as an example, it won’t fix the problem. Only backfilling keeps the total number of positions the same as summer ‘19. Coupled with the projected block hour increases it would be worse in ‘20. Posting new A’s seems a necessity.


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You do understand that many of the conversions from the last big bid were scheduled for after the summer. There were hundreds of A positions awarded.

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Old 11-02-2019, 07:15 AM
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The fact that we have guys arguing whether June is 7 months away or 8 months away says a lot......
Not really, Daylight Savings Time screws with the math.
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Friend of mine just spoke to an RD - they admit the 900 plan will just get us to status quo from last summer with retirements and growth.
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Friend of mine just spoke to an RD - they admit the 900 plan will just get us to status quo from last summer with retirements and growth.


Because... math.


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Friend of mine just spoke to an RD - they admit the 900 plan will just get us to status quo from last summer with retirements and growth.
That’s contrary to what the people at crew resources believe.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
That’s contrary to what the people at crew resources believe.
There's a reliable opinion. They haven't gotten it right yet, but I blame marketing and not willing to carry any cushion for contingencies, so they have an excuse for their consistent errors.
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Old 11-02-2019, 08:08 AM
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If they are going to hire 125 a month starting in January, they are going to have to post either a MOAB early in the calendar year, or commit to many smaller bids to have the openings in which to put that many new hires. Each new bid wipes out the 'vacancies' for the new hires.

My money is on the MOAB early in the new year, that will have massive displacements off the 88 for post-summer draw down. They just won't be able to resist.
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Old 11-02-2019, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
You do understand that many of the conversions from the last big bid were scheduled for after the summer. There were hundreds of A positions awarded.


Yes, and I admit I wasn’t thinking that in my post. However, in my category although there were a number of positions awarded on the last 365 bid, they were all backfill. No new positions, headcount was unchanged. That may not be true elsewhere. Are there any A position categories that were significantly upsized? A220 excepted, as obviously those are new positions.

Even with the new A220 positions, aren’t these being offset by M88 displacements? Some were cancelled of course, but it is coming soon. I haven’t studied exact numbers to verify, but so far I feel like we are still essentially flat on overall number of NB Capts (the categories which seemed hardest hit this past summer.)


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Originally Posted by notEnuf
There's a reliable opinion. They haven't gotten it right yet, but I blame marketing and not willing to carry any cushion for contingencies, so they have an excuse for their consistent errors.


The first sentence of the recent Crew Resources memo tells part of the story. It says that “Flight Ops, Crew Resources and Finance teams have all collaborated....”

I don’t think the issue lies with either of the first two groups. It’s likely any of the operations folks could see where the problem is. They are smart people. I think the front office turned off the money faucet for other reasons and the hiring slowed and stopped. They are hyper focused on stock price and meeting artificial metrics solely for Wall St. Am I the only one who feels like this has become more so since Richard left?


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[QUOTE=NavyFlyer;2916663]Because... math.


So much math denial.
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