Xray678

Someone made the comment a while back that it doesn’t matter how junior a category is right now, if you don’t get it on the next AE then you can’t hold it.

TED74

I'm not sure why this isn't the universal definition. Not many people care what they "could have held", they care what they "can hold" (be awarded?).

beernutt

We’re only minutes away from 80kts reminding us that he is a 320A in Atlanta, and through inference that he caught the goddam brass ring.

tomgoodman

No, it’s an old Yolkswagen.

80ktsClamp

Drinking the haterade this afternoon?

Buck Rogers

Maybe because some people are using a bigger picture and understand generalities if they are pilots and familiar with the nuances(as opposed to my neighbor who isn't and would require a more detailed explanation). For example, if there are no NYC 320 FO bids on the next AE.....and therefore I am not awarded it....then with my 30+ years at Delta I should tell people that I can't hold it?

I think most pilots understand the big picture of what it means, kinda like they understand what being awarded a position "out of seniority" means. My non-pilot wife understands what "out of seniority" means and what "can hold" means

Not trying to be snarky(please don't take it that way), ....it just seems these two terms irk you and you don't understand why some pilots don't see it your way. I think you can start a Wikipedia page and put your "universal definition" up and pilots the world over can help modify and craft the definition to support your/my thoughts about both terms since you keep asking "why".

GogglesPisano

So to distill it:

"Just because you can hold it, does not mean you can hold it."

80ktsClamp

Truth. And therein lies the origin of bid what you want and want what you bid.

crewdawg

Nah, he was just willing to play ball when the bid dropped to his seniority. Why hate on someone just because you're unwilling?

cni187

What happened to Bunny??