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10-20-2019, 11:22 AM
#351
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: A330 First Officer
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I’d have to ask how long you’ve been here. I don’t feel like going into the long discussion about the clause we gave away which resulted in a stellar rate for the 737 but I’m sure someone will give out the long version. As for the 767 paying 757 rates, you have it reversed the 757 pays 767 rates.
10-20-2019, 11:29 AM
#352
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Position: Concourse A
Posts: 786
I’d have to ask how long you’ve been here. I don’t feel like going into the long discussion about the clause we gave away which resulted in a stellar rate for the 737 but I’m sure someone will give out the long version. As for the 767 paying 757 rates, you have it reversed the 757 pays 767 rates.
10-20-2019, 12:46 PM
#354
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: Standing by for MOAD downgrade...
Posts: 122
[QUOTE=TED74;2909278]I know this will never happen. But it seems to me that in our sector, pay (if pay must be tied to something concrete-ish) should be roughly tied to the number of lives one is responsible for delivering from point A to B.
Who transports more lives from point A to point B in an average day? 767 pilot flying one leg every other day, or 717 pilot flying 3-4 legs every day?
Who transports more lives from point A to point B in an average day? 767 pilot flying one leg every other day, or 717 pilot flying 3-4 legs every day?
10-20-2019, 01:40 PM
#355
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
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717 flies 110 lives x 1 hour x 5 flights
767 flies 230 lives x 4000 miles x 1 flight
717 flies 110 lives x 500 miles x 5 flights
This is one rabbit hole after another. And Sailing, 80kts, and Contrails (and probably others) make very good arguments on efficiency basis aka CASM. Where do we yardstick next? PRASM?
We get paid what we negotiate...
10-20-2019, 01:44 PM
#356
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Joined APC: Sep 2013
Position: On the hotel shuttle
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[QUOTE=Bait;2909411]
It we are paid by the hour, no?
I know this will never happen. But it seems to me that in our sector, pay (if pay must be tied to something concrete-ish) should be roughly tied to the number of lives one is responsible for delivering from point A to B.
Who transports more lives from point A to point B in an average day? 767 pilot flying one leg every other day, or 717 pilot flying 3-4 legs every day?
Who transports more lives from point A to point B in an average day? 767 pilot flying one leg every other day, or 717 pilot flying 3-4 legs every day?
10-20-2019, 02:17 PM
#359
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: Standing by for MOAD downgrade...
Posts: 122
767 flies 230 lives x 10 hours x 1 flight
717 flies 110 lives x 1 hour x 5 flights
767 flies 230 lives x 4000 miles x 1 flight
717 flies 110 lives x 500 miles x 5 flights
This is one rabbit hole after another. And Sailing, 80kts, and Contrails (and probably others) make very good arguments on efficiency basis aka CASM. Where do we yardstick next? PRASM?
We get paid what we negotiate...
717 flies 110 lives x 1 hour x 5 flights
767 flies 230 lives x 4000 miles x 1 flight
717 flies 110 lives x 500 miles x 5 flights
This is one rabbit hole after another. And Sailing, 80kts, and Contrails (and probably others) make very good arguments on efficiency basis aka CASM. Where do we yardstick next? PRASM?
We get paid what we negotiate...
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