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10-19-2019, 07:31 PM

#321

bluejuice71

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RamenNoodles

Without specifically finding a press release, I do recall that the 739 and A321 were ordered to replace the domestic 767 and some 757 flying. The press releases are out there and public with that verbiage. I just don’t feel like looking for them at the moment.

The A321 and to a lesser extent the 739 are the replacement airplanes for the MD88/90. Not sure where you’re coming up with 767 replacements.

10-19-2019, 07:33 PM

#322

DWC CAP10 USAF

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Originally Posted by bluejuice71

The A321 and to a lesser extent the 739 are the replacement airplanes for the MD88/90. Not sure where you’re coming up with 767 replacements.

I think he is talking about how they were marketed back in the day, not how Delta is actually using them now.

10-19-2019, 08:58 PM

#323

Chakerik

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Originally Posted by JamesBond

BEcause that is what the printed word said. I can't read your emotion on here.

I agree with Bond. 767s need to stick around while we get 787s or 330s or whatever the flavor of the day is. This issue with trips statement is that 7ers don't need to go asap. They need to be moved from premium intl markets ( lhr jfk ) to other markets. Retaining airframes is a positive while growing a new product, no matter the age of the airframe (nwa dc9, dal 88...do pilots want those gone while getting 321s and the like? No, because it means more jobs....). Not simply saying "they are old, we need a one for one replacement and they need to go asap".

10-19-2019, 10:00 PM

#324

RamenNoodles

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bluejuice71

The A321 and to a lesser extent the 739 are the replacement airplanes for the MD88/90. Not sure where you’re coming up with 767 replacements.

Like I said... public press releases. They are out there and specifically cite 767 replacement.

“...the Boeing 737-900 ER will have lower unit costs than the older technology Boeing 757 and 767 and Airbus A320 aircraft that it will replace.“

https://worldairlinenews.com/2013/09/29/delta-air-lines-takes-delivery-of-its-first-boeing-737-900-er/

10-19-2019, 11:13 PM

#325

m3113n1a1

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I thought the cseries was the md88 replacement. The 737-900/321 do much longer routes a la 757.

If I was in charge (this place would be a disaster), I'd Replace the 767s with a330s and order more a350s!

10-20-2019, 02:41 AM

#326

sailingfun

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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF

I think he is talking about how they were marketed back in the day, not how Delta is actually using them now.

When we first ordered the 321’s Delta stated they were replacing domestic capacity as we retired the MD88’s and 767-300 domestic aircraft. I think all but the fab 4 domestic 767’s were however gone before the first 321 showed up.

10-20-2019, 04:59 AM

#327

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

I believe that's what it was. Not a 321 = 763, but 321s to replace 88s and 763s capacity.

It's all just a big basket.

10-20-2019, 05:56 AM

#328

tunes

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Originally Posted by Rayeli

I’ve heard that the 321NEO can do all Hawaii no problem. It’s the regular 321 that’s performance limited, just like the 739.

ah ok, that makes more sense.

10-20-2019, 06:02 AM

#329

notEnuf

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Now that we have the history argument over.

Yes, domestic 767s are being replaced by narrow-bodies. What is the argument for the A321-neo paying less than the 767-300ER? (which is the same as the 757-200 BTW) If you can give me a reasoned argument, then I'll admit the error of my thinking to you and the world (via the internet and APC of course)

You can't but I'd love to see your attempt. Baradium... Sailing... patiently waiting.

10-20-2019, 06:02 AM

#330

tunes

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Originally Posted by JamesBond

lol... really? I never knew that.

We are getting a premium per seats compared to our competition. I don't have the numbers handy, and I really don't feel like looking it up, but do you really believe that if this management team weren't able to squeeze every last red cent out of a fleet they wouldn't have upgraded it?

And again, why all the wood for 787s? Bring in more 330s. Lots of 'em.

while i'd love 787s, I'm all for more 330s....we should pay them the top rate though.