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10-19-2019, 04:44 PM
#312
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10-19-2019, 04:50 PM
#313
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10-19-2019, 05:02 PM
#314
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It was billed as a 767 replacement when they were ordered, also WE have to negotiate a rate for them, what’s the rationale for it not? Besides it should at least pay the same as the 757 at worst. This is really a comment on our poor twin aisle pay in the ER category. Yes, it should pay more. Assuming we get it next year, after the annual increases dry up, 7ER plus 4% is appropriate.
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10-19-2019, 05:08 PM
#315
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lol... really? I never knew that.
We are getting a premium per seats compared to our competition. I don't have the numbers handy, and I really don't feel like looking it up, but do you really believe that if this management team weren't able to squeeze every last red cent out of a fleet they wouldn't have upgraded it?
And again, why all the wood for 787s? Bring in more 330s. Lots of 'em.
We are getting a premium per seats compared to our competition. I don't have the numbers handy, and I really don't feel like looking it up, but do you really believe that if this management team weren't able to squeeze every last red cent out of a fleet they wouldn't have upgraded it?
And again, why all the wood for 787s? Bring in more 330s. Lots of 'em.
I'll also point out, getting a premium as a company doesn't mean every fleet does over any feasible competitor fleet.
I don't care about the 787s, but your ramblings are full of false equivalencies. The real reason for the angst about the 787s is people wanting to be able to at least imply that not taking NWA's order was a mistake. With all the teething problems that the airplane had on launch I think it bore out to be a wise decision, even if we get them eventually.
10-19-2019, 05:09 PM
#316
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Show me one place where the A321NEO was billed as a 767 replacement. That's a good one.
10-19-2019, 05:27 PM
#317
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Not going to dig for it. Believe what you like. As I recall it was the domestic 767 that it was replacing because the cost of an aging domestic wide body was not going to be replaced by another wide body due to poor economics. You may see an occasional A330 doing domestic but it would be borrowed from the international fleet. I wouldn’t plan on a dedicated domestic wide body fleet ever again.
10-19-2019, 06:02 PM
#318
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If I say my car is old and has 250,000 miles and I need to get rid of it.......if I didnt specifically say replace...u would jump to the conclusion that I would go car-less? (I don't live in NYC)
I use just a smidgeon of logic to flesh out Trips post, he agrees, and u want to cite" well that's what he wrote" argument
Come on guys...let's fire outside the circle( I know, difficult to to in today's environment) but at least stop trying to tear down fellow pilots over fictions "arguments"
10-19-2019, 06:41 PM
#319
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Sounds like you got the first line right anyway. There's a cost benefit to everything, as of now they had decided that the cost didn't pay back to upgrade the interiors, it doesn't mean new interiors didn't mean higher fares. It also doesn't mean that other fleets don't garner higher flares.
I'll also point out, getting a premium as a company doesn't mean every fleet does over any feasible competitor fleet.
I don't care about the 787s, but your ramblings are full of false equivalencies. The real reason for the angst about the 787s is people wanting to be able to at least imply that not taking NWA's order was a mistake. With all the teething problems that the airplane had on launch I think it bore out to be a wise decision, even if we get them eventually.
I'll also point out, getting a premium as a company doesn't mean every fleet does over any feasible competitor fleet.
I don't care about the 787s, but your ramblings are full of false equivalencies. The real reason for the angst about the 787s is people wanting to be able to at least imply that not taking NWA's order was a mistake. With all the teething problems that the airplane had on launch I think it bore out to be a wise decision, even if we get them eventually.
10-19-2019, 07:19 PM
#320
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Without specifically finding a press release, I do recall that the 739 and A321 were ordered to replace the domestic 767 and some 757 flying. The press releases are out there and public with that verbiage. I just don’t feel like looking for them at the moment.
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