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11-21-2019, 02:01 PM
#1133
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Joined APC: Oct 2011
Posts: 534
I doubt you're right. When I tell guys from other airlines that 12 years gets me narrow-body first officer, they are all surprised. I honestly thought 320 A was going to go into the low 8000's this bid. It didn't even break 4800. There are 500 more senior than me 88 captains that need to go somewhere.
There currently are not 500 88 captains senior to the plug.
And 2014 hires on 6 year pay are captain on two fleets in ATL. And off the top of my head, I count 9 fleets at different bases on which 2014 hires are captain.
Yeah, 320A is going senior and probably will for a while. Guys like 80 will be junior for a while. But he et al knew what they were getting into. It’s not too hard to read the tea leaves.
I am for a good gripe & moan session, regardless of the topic. Just make sure you get the gripes right.
11-21-2019, 02:09 PM
#1135
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,039
The reason they are surprised is because you are not correct.
There currently are not 500 88 captains senior to the plug.
And 2014 hires on 6 year pay are captain on two fleets in ATL. And off the top of my head, I count 9 fleets at different bases on which 2014 hires are captain.
Yeah, 320A is going senior and probably will for a while. Guys like 80 will be junior for a while. But he et al knew what they were getting into. It’s not too hard to read the tea leaves.
I am for a good gripe & moan session, regardless of the topic. Just make sure you get the gripes right.
There currently are not 500 88 captains senior to the plug.
And 2014 hires on 6 year pay are captain on two fleets in ATL. And off the top of my head, I count 9 fleets at different bases on which 2014 hires are captain.
Yeah, 320A is going senior and probably will for a while. Guys like 80 will be junior for a while. But he et al knew what they were getting into. It’s not too hard to read the tea leaves.
I am for a good gripe & moan session, regardless of the topic. Just make sure you get the gripes right.
Last edited by hockeypilot44; 11-21-2019 at 02:34 PM.
11-21-2019, 02:13 PM
#1136
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,657
320 and 737 captain are the standard for most airlines. Jetblue, Southwest, United, and some others don't even have anything smaller. The guy has 23 years with the company and can't hold either captain seat in our largest base. That's pathetic. Anyone who disagrees isn't paying attention. Looks like it will be a 17 year upgrade for me. I know, I know; I choose to commute and choose to be off to watch my kids grow up.
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11-21-2019, 02:16 PM
#1137
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2011
Posts: 534
320 and 737 captain are the standard for most airlines. Jetblue, Southwest, United, and some others don't even have anything smaller. The guy has 23 years with the company and can't hold either captain seat in our largest base. That's pathetic. Anyone who disagrees isn't paying attention. Looks like it will be a 17 year upgrade for me. I know, I know; I choose to commute and choose to be off to watch my kids grow up.
I also choose to watch my kids grow up. Junior A means I either make the same by working less or make more when I work a normal schedule. Long story short, weekends do not matter to me. I also live in base, so being junior is easier.
11-21-2019, 02:17 PM
#1138
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
The reason they are surprised is because you are not correct.
There currently are not 500 88 captains senior to the plug.
And 2014 hires on 6 year pay are captain on two fleets in ATL. And off the top of my head, I count 9 fleets at different bases on which 2014 hires are captain.
Yeah, 320A is going senior and probably will for a while. Guys like 80 will be junior for a while. But he et al knew what they were getting into. It’s not too hard to read the tea leaves.
I am for a good gripe & moan session, regardless of the topic. Just make sure you get the gripes right.
There currently are not 500 88 captains senior to the plug.
And 2014 hires on 6 year pay are captain on two fleets in ATL. And off the top of my head, I count 9 fleets at different bases on which 2014 hires are captain.
Yeah, 320A is going senior and probably will for a while. Guys like 80 will be junior for a while. But he et al knew what they were getting into. It’s not too hard to read the tea leaves.
I am for a good gripe & moan session, regardless of the topic. Just make sure you get the gripes right.
Those bypasses are a shining light of things to come!
11-21-2019, 02:27 PM
#1139
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 4,971
The 3rd level is, how can we leverage that to our advantage at the bargaining table? We MUST extract maximum benefit if we even consider giving an inch to alleviate the problem they knew was coming, but failed to properly plan.
What's the saying? "Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part."
11-21-2019, 02:30 PM
#1140
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Petting Zoo
Posts: 2,108
320 and 737 captain are the standard for most airlines. Jetblue, Southwest, United, and some others don't even have anything smaller. The guy has 23 years with the company and can't hold either captain seat in our largest base. That's pathetic. Anyone who disagrees isn't paying attention. Looks like it will be a 17 year upgrade for me. I know, I know; I choose to commute and choose to be off to watch my kids grow up.
Doesnt JB have 190s?
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