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Old 10-01-2019, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Historically, WB B in-base reserve has been known as the place to be for time off. For those in the know (and willing to share), is this holding true, and is your guess that it will continue for the foreseeable future? From the outside looking in, it's hard to tell if the productivity efforts being exercised in the NB world have WB parallels eroding that QOL too.
I am curious as to this, too. I have NB A figured out and enjoy the time off and the earning, in that order.
I would be willing to trade some pay for even more time off if WB B is possible. Not interested in any GS game right now.

Edit: crewdawg has shared his thoughts with me personally, and for that I am eternally grateful. Looking for other perspectives as well, especially on the Boeing side.
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Old 10-01-2019, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen2
I think one of the best ways to check the working smarter not harder is by figuring out your "effective" hourly rate. How many hours blocked vs gross pay on your paycheck. I am sure there are WB Bs who are making north of $800/hr playing the reserve GS game.
Last two months were good to me for Rolling Thunder on the ER, and my category does not have a lot of greenslips. Flew just one greenslip each month (both 7-day greenslips...yes I lucked out). In August, the only other reserve trip I was assigned was a 1-day. In September, the greenslip was the only flying I did. Not quite $800/hr but someone at the 12-year point on the pay scale and/or a higher paying jet could easily do it.

August:
120:27 pay
39:55 block
$538.38/block hour

September:
120:27 pay
35:13 block
$610.24/block hour

5th year FO pay. Does not include international pay, per diem, or shared rewards.
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Old 10-01-2019, 06:26 PM
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last two months were good to me for rolling thunder on the er, and my category does not have a lot of greenslips. Flew just one greenslip each month (both 7-day greenslips...yes i lucked out). In august, the only other reserve trip i was assigned was a 1-day. In september, the greenslip was the only flying i did. Not quite $800/hr but someone at the 12-year point on the pay scale and/or a higher paying jet could easily do it.

August:
120:27 pay
39:55 block
$538.38/block hour

september:
120:27 pay
35:13 block
$610.24/block hour

5th year fo pay. Does not include international pay, per diem, or shared rewards.
330 b?........
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Old 10-01-2019, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TurbineDriver
330 b?........
He said “on the er”....
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Old 10-01-2019, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TurbineDriver
330 b?........
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Also, in hindsight, I'm not sure that metric tells the whole story. Had I not got the greenslips, and just flown the one assigned trip, my pay per block hour would have been higher in August, and infinite in September.

August:

78:37 pay
7:26 block
$1887.01/block hour


September:

78:42 pay
0:00 block
infinite/block hour
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Old 10-01-2019, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen2
I think one of the best ways to check the working smarter not harder is by figuring out your "effective" hourly rate. How many hours blocked vs gross pay on your paycheck. I am sure there are WB Bs who are making north of $800/hr playing the reserve GS game.


I’m going to disagree completely with this method


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Old 10-01-2019, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
I’m going to disagree completely with this method


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I agree, it should be pay/TAFB. Or, pay per time at work.
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Old 10-01-2019, 08:55 PM
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I agree, it should be pay/TAFB. Or, pay per time at work.
I consider time spent on a reserve leash to be time working.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:11 PM
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Gotta agree w Baradium. If I’m on a leash then I’m working. Maybe not as hard as when I was an -88B but not off.
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Originally Posted by Broncos
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Also, in hindsight, I'm not sure that metric tells the whole story. Had I not got the greenslips, and just flown the one assigned trip, my pay per block hour would have been higher in August, and infinite in September.

August:

78:37 pay
7:26 block
$1887.01/block hour


September:

78:42 pay
0:00 block
infinite/block hour
Respectfully, pay per block hour is largely irrelevant. Even if one lives next door to the employee parking lot, he is not free from from all obligation during a reserve availability period. For instance, my main hobby is fishing, and I find it difficult to go fishing during even long call reserve, because many of the lakes around the Atlanta area have terrible cell phone reception.

Similarly, many seem to have great pay per block hour ratios by dropping their entire regular line holder schedules and picking up short notice GS's and two day two leg WS's. That eye watering pay per block hour ratio doesn't tell the whole story if one must always make himself available for a two hour response time. Frequently, I like to do things that make me unavailable to answer the phone or check the computer for more than two hours.

Having said all of that, reserve GS rolling thunder is great, and I used that technique when I lived in Midtown Atlanta, but now that I live on the edge of the SC response window, I prefer a regular line.

Pay per hour obligated to the company would be a more useful (and more difficult to determine) metric.
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