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Old 03-21-2019, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Only one I saw that was out was Rolls. Are the other ones newly out?
Pratt is still in it, GE will not participate unless they are the single supplier. GE/CFM needs a clean slate design that will take a decade or more. Rolls has stated they have too many problems with their current engines to develop a new program. Really, the only option Boeing has is a scaled up, 45K GTF from Pratt. I don't think it's going to happen, not anytime soon. If BA wants to get something out by 2025, then it has to be a 767 Max neo, or some other gimmick with what they currently have.



With the criminal investigation into the 737MAX, now would be the time for Airbus to move on the A220-500, and Delta to replace the MDs/717 with that plane, along with the A223. The 737Max is going to take a performance hit as a result of the criminal investigation. The FAA would have rubber-stamped the changes to the MCAS, as Boeing is bribing the FAA, there has to be something more going on there.
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Old 03-21-2019, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Pratt is still in it, GE will not participate unless they are the single supplier. GE/CFM needs a clean slate design that will take a decade or more. Rolls has stated they have too many problems with their current engines to develop a new program. Really, the only option Boeing has is a scaled up, 45K GTF from Pratt. I don't think it's going to happen, not anytime soon. If BA wants to get something out by 2025, then it has to be a 767 Max neo, or some other gimmick with what they currently have.



With the criminal investigation into the 737MAX, now would be the time for Airbus to move on the A220-500, and Delta to replace the MDs/717 with that plane, along with the A223. The 737Max is going to take a performance hit as a result of the criminal investigation. The FAA would have rubber-stamped the changes to the MCAS, as Boeing is bribing the FAA, there has to be something more going on there.
Agreed. The 220-500 would be the perfect next gen 7377 replacement and help with fleet commonality.
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EB mentioned the A220-500 by name. He mentioned low CASM and that DL wanted them if Airbus decides on it.
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EB mentioned the A220-500 by name. He mentioned low CASM and that DL wanted them if Airbus decides on it.
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Spitballin' but.....Ed Bastian? 😁
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Skyhub. Select group: Events Expressway. Use search function: Leadership Engagement Series. Choose video on Feb 13th. View starting at 45:07-47:16.

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Old 03-22-2019, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Pratt is still in it, GE will not participate unless they are the single supplier. GE/CFM needs a clean slate design that will take a decade or more. Rolls has stated they have too many problems with their current engines to develop a new program. Really, the only option Boeing has is a scaled up, 45K GTF from Pratt. I don't think it's going to happen, not anytime soon. If BA wants to get something out by 2025, then it has to be a 767 Max neo, or some other gimmick with what they currently have.



With the criminal investigation into the 737MAX, now would be the time for Airbus to move on the A220-500, and Delta to replace the MDs/717 with that plane, along with the A223. The 737Max is going to take a performance hit as a result of the criminal investigation. The FAA would have rubber-stamped the changes to the MCAS, as Boeing is bribing the FAA, there has to be something more going on there.
I’m not questioning your info. I sincerely would like to know where you get your information about the latest developments, is it available on a website somewhere? I am interested in this kind of news.
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Old 03-22-2019, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Spitballin' but.....Ed Bastian? 😁
Now THAT was funny!
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Old 03-22-2019, 08:00 PM
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I’m not questioning your info. I sincerely would like to know where you get your information about the latest developments, is it available on a website somewhere? I am interested in this kind of news.
The Seattle times is following the story closely.
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Old 03-22-2019, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Pratt is still in it, GE will not participate unless they are the single supplier. GE/CFM needs a clean slate design that will take a decade or more. Rolls has stated they have too many problems with their current engines to develop a new program. Really, the only option Boeing has is a scaled up, 45K GTF from Pratt. I don't think it's going to happen, not anytime soon. If BA wants to get something out by 2025, then it has to be a 767 Max neo, or some other gimmick with what they currently have.
If it could e a 767 NEO it could be a 797, you already said that the problem is engines in that thrust class?
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