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Old 01-31-2019, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Planned 787 production this year is 14 per month. Planned A330-900 production is 25 for the year and that may see a reduction.
Sounds like a buying opportunity if Airbus wants to keep a smooth production to bolster confidence and pursue additional sales. That seems to be the Delta way. Buy used or out of favor on the cheap.
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Old 01-31-2019, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Planetrain
Letters only mean layover reduction.
Between 2017-now, pacific flying has been flat. The big drop happened 2014-17 of about 15% of block hours.
Total system wide body hours are actually up. (Nov Scope Report)
Brought this up with an old Whale guy the other day. Even showed him the numbers. He called it bull**** because "we used to fly 15 whales a day to NRT!" Sometimes you just can't argue nostalgia and emotion with facts and data
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
I don't care what we fly as long as I am paid and the company is making more money than the competition.

I don't know much about running an airline or determining which airplane is better, but what I do know is pilots are bad airline managers. The few who have done it were terrible. My wife works in the OCC and it is surprising how little pilots know about how the rest of an airline functions.

Just remember that lots of people spend thousands of hours determining which aircraft is correct to buy. They have more facts than we can find on Wikipedia. And just because the 787 is right for one airline doesn't mean it is right for us. From what I know of United and American, it makes me feel better knowing we aren't doing the same thing as they are.
Agreed.

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Old 01-31-2019, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
As will the 350 doing NRT. Probably carries one or two more LD7s than a 7ER. ��
7ER is not an aircraft type. Even though it's a category at DAL, it STILL isn't a specific aircraft and covers both widebodies and narrowbodies. Although the stories of pilots saying they are an ER when asked by ATC what their type is does provide some amusement.
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Old 01-31-2019, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
From what I know of United and American, it makes me feel better knowing we aren't doing the same thing as they are.
Amen

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Old 01-31-2019, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
I don't care what we fly as long as I am paid and the company is making more money than the competition.

I don't know much about running an airline or determining which airplane is better, but what I do know is pilots are bad airline managers. The few who have done it were terrible. My wife works in the OCC and it is surprising how little pilots know about how the rest of an airline functions.

Just remember that lots of people spend thousands of hours determining which aircraft is correct to buy. They have more facts than we can find on Wikipedia. And just because the 787 is right for one airline doesn't mean it is right for us. From what I know of United and American, it makes me feel better knowing we aren't doing the same thing as they are.
Moderators please delete this post. It makes too much sense and it doesn’t have any negativity
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Old 01-31-2019, 06:41 PM
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Great point. These routes directly challenge the SEA operation, especially with the marketing tie-ins with AS.

787-8 would be perfect plane for SEA-HKG/SIN. Back in red tail days Eagan was looking at SEA-SYD as a potential run.

But Richard had his **** act with Boeing and that was that.

The only DL aircraft capable of flying beyond China are way too large for SEA. HKG was a siv on the 777.

Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
Good thing we dropped the 787. It probably could have saved SEA-HKG before CX jumped on it and we may have been able to launch SEA-SIN ahead of SQ. I doubt either route can profitably support multiple daily flights from 2 different carriers.
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Old 02-01-2019, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by n9810f
Great point. These routes directly challenge the SEA operation, especially with the marketing tie-ins with AS.

787-8 would be perfect plane for SEA-HKG/SIN. Back in red tail days Eagan was looking at SEA-SYD as a potential run.

But Richard had his **** act with Boeing and that was that.

The only DL aircraft capable of flying beyond China are way too large for SEA. HKG was a siv on the 777.
siv? what is that?
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
siv? what is that?
I think he meant sieve, as in a mesh strainer. All the money leaks through.
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Originally Posted by n9810f
Great point. These routes directly challenge the SEA operation, especially with the marketing tie-ins with AS.

787-8 would be perfect plane for SEA-HKG/SIN. Back in red tail days Eagan was looking at SEA-SYD as a potential run.

But Richard had his **** act with Boeing and that was that.

The only DL aircraft capable of flying beyond China are way too large for SEA. HKG was a siv on the 777.
THIS ^^^
I always found it very hard to believe that with the inherited order from NW as a launch customer, Boeing all of a sudden couldn’t accommodate delivery slots for us. RA was clearly ****ed at Boeing and he let that show and then we cozied up to Airbus. Don’t get ne wrong, I love Airbus products, but I think the 787 is an aircraft we should be flying, perhaps not the -9 since we have the A359, but the -8 and -10 for sure.
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