First A330 NEO
02-04-2019, 11:01 AM
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Delta has a strong plan in place to restructure Asia and we are starting to see the results of that with significant 330 positions to be added in SEA due to the impending arrival of the 330NEO. Delta will be able to leverage its partnership with KAL along with the significantly lower operating costs of the A350/A330NEO to build a strong, efficient Asia-Pacific Network that provides sustainable profit and growth.
I've seen the SEA330A category go from 75 to 105 to 55. Hopefully the rollercoaster is doing the climb in the near future....Denny
02-04-2019, 12:47 PM
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We do have a strong partner in Asia (KE). We don’t have a partner in Japan.
02-04-2019, 01:47 PM
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The statement you quoted as silly wasn’t mine to begin with. And in my opinion, Mr. Anderson did act out of spite. He didn’t spite his own face necessarily because it’s not like Boeing was the only option. And the A330 and A350 are suitable airplanes for Delta. But really, his little stunt about used 777s that sent Boeing stock tumbling wasn’t spiteful???
It’s not about shiny new the jets, but while we’re at it we are receiving shiny new Airbus jets. I happen to think the 350 is a better aircraft than the 787. My point is that it is not the right aircraft for us to effectively serve a lot of markets from SEA which is supposed to be our stateside replacement for NRT. The same is probably true of the A339 neo due to it’s size and lack of range compared to the 787-8.
I certainly hope Im wrong; mgt has said the A339 will have a big presence in SEA but it doesn’t have the range for SIN or HKG. And it’s fairly similar in size to a 777 which was clearly too much airplane for HKG, so I don’t see that working for us, espcially now that CX jumped on the route as soon as we ended it. But again Id love to proven wrong and will eat my words if I am.
It’s not about shiny new the jets, but while we’re at it we are receiving shiny new Airbus jets. I happen to think the 350 is a better aircraft than the 787. My point is that it is not the right aircraft for us to effectively serve a lot of markets from SEA which is supposed to be our stateside replacement for NRT. The same is probably true of the A339 neo due to it’s size and lack of range compared to the 787-8.
I certainly hope Im wrong; mgt has said the A339 will have a big presence in SEA but it doesn’t have the range for SIN or HKG. And it’s fairly similar in size to a 777 which was clearly too much airplane for HKG, so I don’t see that working for us, espcially now that CX jumped on the route as soon as we ended it. But again Id love to proven wrong and will eat my words if I am.
02-04-2019, 02:51 PM
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Ya know, this has been said many, many times and it's true...but it seems like there are many foreign carriers that keep adding flights! And Customs is getting more crowded. Last I heard the new Customs facility was supposed to be ready this coming summer/fall but construction is running a year behind....
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02-04-2019, 05:38 PM
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Booming economic city or not the fact remains HKG is currently not profitable and network as chosen to move the aircraft elsewhere. With Delta completely closing their operations there looks like the route won't be economically feasible for a while
02-04-2019, 05:42 PM
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No I’ve not seen the aircraft parked in HKG, but what’s that got to do with the price of tea in China??? SEA-HKG was originally served with an A332 but that route was at the edge of it’s performance, it was also served less than daily. Then it was switched to a 777 because it has more range but it wasn’t filling up with the 777 having some 60 seats more than an A332. Then it was finally pulled altogether.
02-04-2019, 05:46 PM
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CX flies HKG-LAX 3X daily and AA flies it once a day and they are partners in OW. I doubt we’d make any money on it. We probably stood the best chance if we served it with no competition from SEA but we obviously don’t have the right aircraft for it and now that CX will be starting service, we probably never will.
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